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Messaggio da soulmum » 16 ottobre 2020, 10:08

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SAFECHUCK DEMURRER: The judge has roundly sided with ESTATE—rejecting some of Safechuck's causes outright w/ no room to amend.
For the rest, judge finds Finaldi's arguments insufficient and has asked him to explain (at hearing) how he could remedy them.
https://mjjr.net/docs/2020-10-15-Tentat ... Ruling.pdf
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James is already on his 3RD AMENDED COMPLAINT, including TWICE from Finaldi himself (2016 & 2017).
As such, one would expect such an intelligent & reputable lawyer like Finaldi (Face with tears of joy) would've recognized and remedied these issues by the third attempt—if it were actually possible.

The other 4 are hanging by a thread. Judge didn't buy Finaldi's opposition motion in court and is giving him one final chance to argue at the hearing tomorrow. Judge may or may not allow chance to amend them.


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CASE UPDATE: Finaldi sanctioned big time!
In a tentative order (finalized tomorrow), judge has imposed $9,200 SANCTIONS against Finaldi payable to estate within 30 days.
The judge agreed w/ estate—amount is for "time spent directly opposing the motion."
https://mjjr.net/docs/2020-10-16-Tentative-Order.pdf

The judge noted how Finaldi's complaints and arguments were premature and generally insufficient.
Finaldi also "fails to address the reasonableness of the sanctions requested by defense counsel" in his 10 page declaration—he can still try arguing that at tomorrow's hearing.
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Once again, the judge points out Finaldi's cited case law in arguments "does not support his contention" against the Court-imposed sanctions.
"The Court concludes that it is appropriate in this matter for sanctions to be awarded against Finaldi based on the plain language..."
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One basis for the sanctions was that the judge determined Finaldi "did not act with substantial justification in terminating Leroy's deposition and bringing this motion"
As well as Finaldi's "failure to properly meet and confer prior to filing this motion."
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With regard to Finaldi's lackluster attempt to meet and confer, the judge expanded his basis for sanctions even further.
He called Finaldi's attempted explanation "facially insufficient" & points out that Finaldi made "four non-negotiable demands" & "only one day to respond."
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Another fail by Finaldi was he acted as if the alleged lawyer misconduct was part of judge's sanction request.
These are separate issues. He was sanctioned for his unsuccessful motion & failure to confer.
Judge "makes no apology" in describing Finaldi's unprofessional conduct.
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In conclusion (short of any changes at tomorrow's hearing):
"Plantiff does not contest the amount of sanctions requested by Defendants... The Court awards Defendants $9,200 in monetary sanctions against Plantiff's counsel, payable within 30 days."
Sanctions keep piling up!
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So many clues in the judge's tentative about JS that foreshadow its complete dismissal.
Nothing Finaldi argues "supports the allegation JS was in a fiduciary relationship" - The judge notes this for 6th cause and is relevant for causes 2-5 as well. (1 & 2 are already dismissed).
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Messaggio da soulmum » 16 ottobre 2020, 10:26

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The complete set of motions from Dan, Amos and Channel 4 including email exhibits can be downloaded below:
https://mjjr.net/docs/2020-10-13-Dan-Am ... -Quash.pdf



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Well it took me long enough to understand this, but THIS is why Reed claims that he is employed directly by Channel 4. Because he wants to be covered under the California Shield Law. He wasn't when he made LN though. Just wow. :???:



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For those who noticed Dan following Paris on Twitter: In part that was because he sent HER a notice about LN before it premiered at Sundance—after pressers began circulating about it.Face vomiting
He never solicited any comment or informed Jackson reps of it until after it was complete.
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The estate has filed a 20-page brief (162-page including exhibits) outlining their arguments on why Dan / Amos Pictures / Channel 4 should not be allowed courtroom media rights, based on the history of LN and Dan himself.
The full document is below:
https://mjjr.net/docs/2020-10-09-Brief-Dan-Filming.pdf

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Tentative w/ Safechuck: 2 causes denied w/out leave to amend, other 4 not sufficient as-is but the judge allowed arguments from Finaldi—to consider if he has any viable way to amend them.
Tentative w/ Wade: $9,200 sanctions against Finaldi.
Awaiting final rulings by next week.

Please understand that generally, we would have heard the TENTATIVE ruling today in court. But because of our super sleuths like
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, we knew yesterday. Standard procedure is that a judge allows attorneys to orally argue their points and then a final ruling is made.


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Time travelling trains? Now we have time travelling cars and drivers too I guess as according to Wade he was abused between 9-14 (7-14 depending on which version. Fun fact, wasn’t in America until he was 9) so how does this work then?


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Court is over. Judge Young said he would keep the tentative as is for now, and make a final ruling in a few days.

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FINALDI: The relevance of LN [featuring the two men directly accusing MJ] is "minimal at best" in these cases. (Dan/Amos now fighting subpoenas).
ALSO FINALDI: The relevance of Spence & other non-parties who never even met Wade/James is crucial to the cases! I must depose them!



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And in Dan's BAFTA interview he explained how he worked with Wade to get him to seem less robotic or what-not.
He shot multiple takes of each. Claims his camera broke so he lost Wade's original "truths" and had to reshoot.
Same w/ JS, said he kept getting distracted w/ noise...

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(2017) - Finaldi argued JS was employed because he'd "stand next to MJ at press conferences to make MJ seem like he loves children—a shill."
Then says real employment—YEARS after all "abuse" ended—was to "silence" him (w/ a insignificant stint as a "hand double").
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There was not one press conference where Jimmy was standing next to MJ.
And if this was a job all the kids who was ever seen with him publicly were employees

Finaldi totally fail to notice the contradiction
1. look, nobody but a pedo would have kids around all the time
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2. he had kids around all the time to make people believe his love for kids was innocent


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But then Reed contradicts that by saying abuse was still going on at that point.


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Yes. That was excuse #1 of several when he was confronted with a "factual error" from the film.
He now commits perjury by swearing in an affidavit that not a single factual error was ever brought to his attention.
Even though he directly responded to this error, as one example.

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FINAL RULING ON SANCTIONS: As a reminder, the judge has -finalized- his ruling in which Finaldi has been sanctioned $9,200 for his failed motion on 9/24.
The judge made clear Finaldi's poor attempt to meet & confer was not appropriate or fair.
10/16 hearing didn't change this.

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Finaldi: we were not told sanctions could be imposed

Judge: it's in the damn statute you yourself cited

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2017: Finaldi shoots self in the foot:

"There's no way to explain the reason why one case would be able to proceed and one case can't proceed when both of them are suing the entity—negligence claims—no way to separate that out."
Wade's case should follow suit when JS' is gone.

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So court was interesting on Friday. As James and his wife were there. Larry Nimmer was also filming. Dan Reed was also present in the court filming.

Judge asked everyone if they have read his tentative. Estate goes first and agrees with the judges tentative. They talk about special relationships and fiduciary duty.he sites some cases.

Judge asks John S. If he feels these issues have been combined when should be looked at separate. John S says Yes .
Judge asks there’s an allegation that the companies were created for mentoring youth does the court take it as truth?

Jonathon Steainsapir says no. Cause there are no facts to allege that MJ could and should have fired himself.
Judge asks if they should take the allegation that companies were thee to mentor youth in entertainment as true.


John S says no because no facts support it. The idea that Mj could retain himself and supervise himself is not negligence law. We are only here cause Mj is dead. They would be going after him and if they win a judgment then will go after him and his companies.

Finaldi adds nothing new to argument saying Companies should have protected kids and MiJ can fire himself. Judge says but MJ Ventures wasn’t created till 93 and plaintiff (James )alleged abuse ended in 92 so even if I side with you would t the companies have had to be created?

Finaldi says No because as long as the abuse occurred during that time of engaging in activities involving kids that is our position. Judge says he won’t rule today. And the court will take it under submission.


Next up Wade Ve Doe Finaldi rehashes the same claims he argued last time. He is mad that the court has ordered him to pay. Talks again about McIsaac and how he felt she was coaching Leroy and how he called him a docubbag and an ambulance chaser. I want court to see my evidence

Judge tell him he understands Finaldi”s position but he calls it like he sees it and has an obligation to bring it up to holding lawyers accountable for their actions and when he sees unprofessional conduct.and says make no apology even if you are mad. You didn’t meet and confer properly and brought an unsuccessful motion and that’s why the court imposed a fine.
Judge continued your party conduct will not be tolerated and that doesn’t violate your right for due process.

Finaldi says it’s important cause the daily journal wrote about me and it’s affecting my business. I suspended the deposition but he called me a Douchebag. Judge says you were off the record. Finaldi then says well if I was wrong why would they allow Branca to sit for a deposition.
Judge says I’m gonna Impose you pay 9200 dollars and you have 30 days to pay it..

Sitting in that court room seeing James there and thinking how lucky he was that he got to hang out with Mj yet here we are 11 years after his death and your suing him for money. Disgusting. When he noticed the cameras rolled he looked like a sad puppy. We need to see what happens next and how the judge will rule .When court ended Dan Reed ran out of the court room so fast. Him and his assistant hightailed it out of there. Maybe something to do with their subpoena last time. Which I witnessed and had no idea and thought he was getting transcripts early and thought to myself hey No fair I want them to why does he get them. Only after this week did I realize what a historical moment t I witnessed that saw Dan Reed getting a subpoena..

Again from here it’s a waiting game. I did get to chat with Larry and tell him how much I enjoyed his film and how that inspired me to look further into the Mj case. I’ll try and answer any questions you have about that day..

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#BREAKINGNEWS: JAMES SAFECHUCK'S CASE, pending any further appeals, is OFFICIALLY DISMISSED FROM THE COURT ! The demurrer in Safechuck's case has been SUSTAINED WITHOUT LEAVE TO AMEND on ALL CAUSES OF ACTION ! TRUTH WILL PREVAIL

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James Safechuck, one of the two men accusing Michael Jackson of abusing them in “Leaving Neverland,” just had his case in court dismissed!l! That’s actually the second time a judge ruled for dismissal of his case.
Media, are you paying attention to this fact and making your reports?

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BREAKING: The demurrer in Safechuck's case has been SUSTAINED WITHOUT LEAVE TO AMEND on ALL CAUSES OF ACTION.
MJ's side has won in their court pleadings.
https://mjjr.net/docs/2020-10-20-Final- ... murrer.pdf
JAMES SAFECHUCK'S CASE, pending any further appeals, is OFFICIALLY DISMISSED FROM THE COURT.


The judge also moved Finaldi's "motion for reconsideration" re: Spence/Fox/Chandler/Marks to Dec. 4.
Finaldi had reserved Mar-Apr for these motions. Pending the resolution, he still owes Spence/Fox $6,270—not to be confused with the $9,200 awarded for his other failed motion
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Messaggio da soulmum » 21 ottobre 2020, 21:35

Finaldi can't spell either! OR TMZ can't.

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https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-54636636
Michael Jackson: Court dismisses lawsuit from accuser James Safechuck
A US judge has dismissed a lawsuit from one of Michael Jackson's accusers, who claimed Jackson's companies allowed the star to abuse him and other children.

James Safechuck has said the singer started abusing him when he was 10.

In 2014, he sued MJJ Productions and MJJ Ventures, and has alleged they "were created to, and did, facilitate Jackson's sexual abuse of children".

But the judge dismissed the case, saying the companies didn't have a duty of care for Mr Safechuck.

Jonathan Steinsapir and Howard Weitzman, representing MJJ Productions and MJJ Ventures, told the BBC: "We are pleased that the court agreed that Mr Safechuck had no grounds to pursue his lawsuit."

Mr Safechuck was one of two men who accused the late pop star of abuse in last year's Leaving Neverland documentary.
In his lawsuit, he said Jackson abused him hundreds of times at his homes and on tour in the late 1980s and early 90s.

MJJ Productions and MJJ Ventures were set up by Jackson to run his career. But in the lawsuit it was claimed: "The thinly-veiled, covert second purpose of these businesses was to operate as a child sexual abuse operation, specifically designed to locate, attract, lure and seduce child sexual abuse victims."

Mr Safechuck also featured with Jackson in a Pepsi commercial and often appeared on stage with the singer.

Mr Safechuck's lawyer Vince Finaldi told BBC News: "He was an employee that was working on behalf of them as a dancer and entertainer on the stage with Michael.

"Because he was a minor, and he was an employee working for them, they had a duty to protect him. That's our argument."

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California judge Mark Young disagreed, saying the companies weren't directly responsible for causing emotional distress, and were not able to control Jackson, because he controlled the companies and everyone they employed. Corporations cannot be direct perpetrators, he said.

Mr Safechuck, who is seeking unspecified damages, will appeal.

Jackson vehemently denied the abuse. Mr Safechuck (a child at the time) reportedly gave a witness statement defending Jackson when allegations against the singer first emerged in 1993.

Mr Finaldi is also representing Wade Robson, who appeared in Leaving Neverland too, in a separate lawsuit, which is expected to reach trial next summer.

Leaving Neverland director Dan Reed is reportedly making a sequel about the pair's legal battles. Deadline reported on Wednesday that Jackson's companies had taken legal action against the film-maker.

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https://www.showbiz411.com/2020/10/21/m ... ll-be-next

Michael Jackson Exonerated as Judge Dismisses James Safechuck Case, Wade Robson Will Be Next

by Roger Friedman - October 21, 2020

Michael Jackson should be pleased wherever he is today. The first of two cases brought against him posthumously by men who said they were abused by the singer in their teens was dismissed.

The case of James Safechuck was dismissed on demurrer, meaning just through paperwork, on Tuesday.

Judge Mark Young wrote, explaining demurrers: When considering demurrers, courts “are required to construe the complaint liberally to determine whether a cause of action has been stated, given the assumed truth of the facts pleaded.”

You can read the Judge’s complete finding here. But he didn’t buy that Safechuck, as a child, worked for Michael Jackson or his companies, and that Jackson failed “to warn, train, or educate” him. Safechuck’s case, like that of his pal Wade Robson, was concocted to get money from the Jackson estate because Michael– who died suddenly– failed to leave them anything in a will.

The judge wrote that: “Plaintiff [Safechuck] alleged that Jackson was “hired” by Defendants to coach, teach, and mentor minors interested in the entertainment industry. Setting aside Plaintiff’s allegation that Jackson was the President of both Defendants, Plaintiff has failed to allege specific facts detailing what such mentorship looked like (or was supposed to look like) from 1988 through 1992.”

The case has been tossed and it’s not coming back. Howard Weitzman, Jackson’s estate lawyer, said in a statement to Showbiz411: “We are pleased that the court agreed that James Safechuck case should be dismissed because [they] had no grounds to pursue his lawsuit.”

Robson’s case will be decided next. Each of these men participated in the disastrous documentary “Leaving Neverland,” in which they described– without evidence or backing or a chance for the estate to refute–child molestation at the hands of Michael Jackson. This was a decade after they’d attended Jackson’s funeral, many years after Robson testified for Jackson in a child molestation trial. They each seemed motivated to find money at the expense of truth.

The documentary, shown on HBO, has been derided by Jackson fans who’ve meticulously pulled it apart and examined all the testimony of Safehuck and Robson. It’s like having a thousand Perry Masons working at once. Now the film’s director, not satisfied to have participated in one painful farce, is trying to make sequel. Since the Jackson estate is still suing HBO, it’s unlikely he’ll find a home again there anytime soon.

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The futility of old hat media trying to survive in this post-media world is fascinating—using clickbait & drama to carry their efforts.
My reply to USA Today (4.1M followers) received twice as many likes as their own MJ story.
My original tweet has over 40x the engagement
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'Channel 4’s head of news and current affairs said that the Jackson companies were trying to “suppress” reporting on the Robson and Safechuck cases.' (But it is Reed who refuses to share his unseen footage with the court and is running away from a subpoena!)- Independent 22/10/20

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Safechuck claimed serial abuse between 1988-Jan1990 in a building that was built in 1994. He claimed serial abuse between 1988-Jan1990 in a second building that was built in Dec 1991. James Safechuck claimed he was abused at the 89 Grammys, MJ wasn't there. Justice was served.

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Messaggio da soulmum » 24 ottobre 2020, 9:21

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FLASHBACK: Dan's reply to a story about factual error in LN—train station abuse w/ impossible timeline.
It illustrates his naivety on the case: "James doesn't say when the abuse ended," except in his affidavit & three amended complaints since 2014.
Also, Dan committed perjury.

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More sour grapes from Finaldi as he tries to salvage his "reputation" by delaying and disputing the hefty sanctions imposed against him.
Finaldi has filed notice of appeal for the $9,200 of sanctions awarded to the estate, in reference to Leroy's deposition.
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Messaggio da soulmum » 25 ottobre 2020, 20:43

They seem to have forgotten to take this clip down. lol


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Messaggio da soulmum » 27 ottobre 2020, 8:37

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DOCUMENT: As part of protocol, today the estate formally sent notice of the judge's tentative & final ruling sustaining their renewed demurrer in Safechuck's case to Finaldi's firm (via email and postal mail).

Finaldi has advised TMZ that he will appeal.
https://mjjr.net/docs/2020-10-26-Final- ... echuck.pdf

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Nothing new.
judge dismissed James' case.
James will appeal.
We'll wait.
3 judges will review the case & rule if the judge's decision is valid.
If James loses, they may try to appeal to a higher court but unlikely to be heard.
If they win, it'd go back to trial court.

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Another Finaldi witness failing him.
Evangeline, former maid who was part of Blanca's Hard Copy dealings & received $5k.
She believes MJ is innocent. Never saw anything wrong. Was a good man.
Finaldi's classic retort: "You were never in his room! You weren't there after 10pm!"

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Evangeline continued destroying Finaldi's case when estate questioned her.
- No employee—including Blanca or Quindoys—ever said they thought MJ was molesting kids.
- Parents & chaperones accompanied kids.
- MJ owned the businesses, was the boss.
- Norma was rarely ever around.

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In fact, Evangeline just learned during Finaldi's depo that she was fired from Neverland due to Blanca's own misconduct.
Blanca tore up Vangie's letter (tardiness) & pinned it to board as "joke."
Vangie never knew this and repeatedly calls Blanca a liar for saying otherwise.

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Messaggio da soulmum » 29 ottobre 2020, 15:32

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In Wade's depo he says when they moved to US he was dressed like MC Hammer instead of MJ & this outraged MJ.
But it was MJ who encouraged Wade to take inspiration from rappers including MC Hammer, Vanilla Ice, Bobby Brown.
So which is it, Wade?
(This fax doesn't appear in LN.)

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Messaggio da soulmum » 30 ottobre 2020, 10:57

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SAFECHUCK UPDATE: This week the judge issued formal order, adding more salt to the wounds. Popcorn
"Plaintiff James Safechuck SHALL RECOVER NOTHING from Defendants..."
"Defendants SHALL RECOVER THEIR COSTS of suit herein."
Amount owed to estate TBD.
Finaldi still plans to appeal.

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My favorite Finaldi excerpt, disproving his own case.
MJJ Ventures didn't exist for 4+ years after Pepsi commercial & MJJ Productions had no relation to James' casting/hiring for Pepsi.
MJ also didn't contact JS for "several months" after & only did so after James wrote TO him.

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Messaggio da soulmum » 13 novembre 2020, 10:07

Joy Robson 1993:

"MJ is so innocent. Painfully shy
he's too embarrassed to see anyone see him naked"

She says Wade deserves an Oscar apparently she thinks MJ deserves one too

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Messaggio da soulmum » 14 novembre 2020, 7:47

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Finaldi has sent a cashier's check totaling $13,800 to the clerk of court as a deposit—pending the resolution of his appeal.
This relates to the $9,200 sanctions awarded (plus cost of appeal/interest) after Finaldi's failed protective order motion from Leroy Whaley's depo.

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Messaggio da soulmum » 19 novembre 2020, 8:46

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ROBSON CASE:
Here's the full opposition by Fox/Spence for Dec. 4 hearing.
They hold nothing back re: Finaldi's "meritless Motion for Reconsideration."
"By his conduct, Plaintiff has burdened this Court & non-parties with baseless & expensive motions."

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Messaggio da soulmum » 21 novembre 2020, 21:17

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CASE UPDATE:
For Dec. 4 hearing, Spence/Fox filed objections to Finaldi's motions.
They argue that he is using hearsay including "observations by persons w/ no official duty to observe & report relevant facts."
Fox: https://mjjr.net/docs/2020-11-19-Fox-Ob ... nciary.pdf
Spence: https://mjjr.net/docs/2020-11-19-Spence ... ntiary.pdf

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In the ultimate bid of desperation, Finaldi attempts to use the 94 report / declaration of Murdock as evidence against the Spences.
But in Murdock's 2017 deposition as part of Wade's case, she said the declaration was drafted by someone else & is FALSE.

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Re: Robson, Safechuck file claim of abuse with estate

Messaggio da soulmum » 23 novembre 2020, 9:49

Jail all false accusers
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Robson said he was concerned about the media attention if he writes a book.
While he wanted maximum media attention with Leaving Neverland.
Funny how his "concern" vanished when the estate refused to pay him

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Messaggio da soulmum » 24 novembre 2020, 9:23

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Months after James' lawsuit was tossed in '17 he took another 30 yr. mortgage—$621,000 + interest.
This was the 2nd one within a year's time; 2016 he got one for $175,000.
A lush estate pay out would've been nice vs. a lifetime of crippling house debts exceeding $1M w/ interest.

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ROBSON CASE UPDATE:

Following last week's filings from Spence/Fox opposing Finaldi's motions, Lily & Tabitha filed their own this week.
"NO new LEGITIMATE FACTS or LAW have been presented to warrant reconsideration of Court's September 24, 2020 order."
https://mjjr.net/docs/2020-11-19-Lily-C ... sition.pdf

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The attorney for Chandler/Marks has classified Finaldi's aggressive tactics as "persistent harassment and invasion of privacy" and in direct contradiction to Finaldi's own suggestion that "alleged victims and their families" shouldn't be obliged to discuss anything with him.
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Lily's Attorney: "A cursory examination of Plaintiff’s submission reveals that these arguments lack merit. Instead, the instant motion for reconsideration is nothing more than Plaintiff’s FRIVOLOUS ATTEMPT at a second bite of the proverbial apple."

When Finaldi filed his motion for reconsideration, he padded it with claims of alleged new info that he never raised before.
Attorney for Lily: Finaldi's argument doesn't come close to establishing she had personal knowledge, relevant testimony, admissible evidence...irrelevant.

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Finaldi's only declaration to support his motion for reconsideration were redacted excerpts from Pellicano's Aug. depo.
A depo that, had it really been "of such great importance" to warrant reversing the judge's order, it would had been raised to the court prior to Sept. 24.
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Re: Robson, Safechuck file claim of abuse with estate

Messaggio da soulmum » 25 novembre 2020, 9:07

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The attorney for Chandler/Marks has classified Finaldi's aggressive tactics as "persistent harassment and invasion of privacy" and in direct contradiction to Finaldi's own suggestion that "alleged victims and their families" shouldn't be obliged to discuss anything with him.
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Messaggio da soulmum » 26 novembre 2020, 9:11

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Finaldi's argument re: Fox/Spence was improperly redacted, allowing one to still read what it says.
And it is nothing but more blind, meaningless conjecture just to try anything he can to depose Spence/Fox.
Here's the unredacted version for Fox.
A big ole nothing-burger.
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For Spence, Finaldi argues that because Spence slept in MJ's bedroom and his family got gifts from him, this somehow makes a tie to the "procurement" of CSA with other kids and shows signs of grooming (recall that Wade's allegations actually skip any such "grooming" efforts.)
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While Finaldi keeps fuming over the sanctions imposed against him and the judge's tentative note that his unprofessional conduct toward MJ's counsel could be construed as gender incivility...
He has no problem claiming Spence/Fox were "unwitting parties" to CSA procurement.

Finaldi says Fox communicated w/ "individuals whom Wade believes had knowledge of MJ's crimes..."
But the only person who should've "suspected" crimes was Wade's mother—as approached by Gutierrez in 1992.
No staff ever suggested this until their tabloid paydays post-Aug. 1993.

The majority of those he refers to recanted or otherwise explained that the police pressured them, distorted their reports, lied about false evidence, drafted insincere declarations and twisted reality.
At this point Finaldi is a thousand leagues lower than grasping at straws.

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Re: Robson, Safechuck file claim of abuse with estate

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Publicly, sources insisted Jordan was willing to testify against MJ. Dateline repeated it a month before trial. Sneddon also told Dimond he wouldn't bring '93 evidence unless JC testified.
In reality Jordan actively refused. He was combative in 04-05. Similar in 2016 to Finaldi.

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Re: Robson, Safechuck file claim of abuse with estate

Messaggio da soulmum » 3 dicembre 2020, 21:17

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LOLLLLL this is the best day ever! #FinaldiSanctions


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TENTATIVE WADE ROBSON UPDATE: The judge has DENIED all of Finaldi's motions for reconsideration.
The court's rulings from Sept. 24 on all counts stand.
"Plaintiff has not presented new or different facts, circumstances, or law that were not already known to Plaintiff...DENIED."







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To be clear about this ruling, it is only in relation to the Sept. rulings in which Finaldi was denied the right to invasively depose non-parties Jonathan Spence, his mom, Lily and Tabetha.
Finaldi objected to those rulings, and the judge has affirmed that those rulings stand.

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WADE ROBSON CASE UPDATE: Defense has filed an ex parte motion to advance the hearing on a motion for SUMMARY JUDGMENT or, alternatively, SUMMARY ADJUDICATION based on issues that will be filed no later than Monday Dec. 7.
https://mjjr.net/docs/2020-12-03-Ex-Parte-Wade.pdf
They wish to expedite dismissal.

The requested date for deciding potential dismissal of Wade's case is February 22 or March 1, rather than May 4. If accepted, Wade's case could be heard for potential dismissal within ~3 months.
Part of the justification is how long the case has been dragging on, since May 2013.

The defense notes James' demurrer that was recently granted without leave to amend, and the similarities between the cases.
However, in Wade's case the defense wishes to file Summary Judgment on the merits instead, due to the extensive discovery and depositions already taken.
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Within the coming days, we'll have a more resounding picture of new arguments against Wade's case.
SJ allows them to introduce exhibits & evidence that wouldn't be plausible if just filing for demurrer—similar to how Wade's emails etc. became public last time.
Hearing tomorrow.

The defense had originally reserved a hearing on Jan. 13 to argue a motion on the pleadings (similar to Safechuck).
But they rationalize that if a Summary Judgement motion could be expedited instead, that would be more logical in the interest of time and finality of the case.

As a reminder, a hearing is scheduled tomorrow, Dec. 4, in the Wade Robson case.
This will pertain to the new ex parte request along with Finaldi's three older motions for reconsideration—after his original pleadings were denied with regard to deposing Spence/Fox/Chandler/Marks.

It is good news.
The estate has two different avenues to request Wade's case be dismissed.
They are requesting an expedited hearing for a planned Motion for Summary Judgment.
This would be a more comprehensive dismissal and allow them to enter new evidence and more arguments.

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Re: Robson, Safechuck file claim of abuse with estate

Messaggio da soulmum » 5 dicembre 2020, 9:08

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Re #RobsonvMJEstate: Judge Young has GRANTED the advancement of the summary judgement requested by the Estate. Instead of 5/4/21, the hearing will be on 2/24/21. This is GREAT news for the Estate.
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Another excellent across-the-board win for MJ's estate against Wade Robson & Finaldi.
Not only were Finaldi's motions to reconsider the protective orders of Spence/Fox/Chandler/Marks denied, but the estate can now proceed with best action via expedited Summary Judgement.
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The only hearing that's scheduled after the expedited Motion for Summary Judgment (2/24) is Dan's re: subpoenas he is trying to quash (4/9).
Depending on outcome of Summary Judgment these other issues may be irrelevant by then. I still hope estate can obtain LN outtakes & depos.

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Messaggio da soulmum » 8 dicembre 2020, 20:46

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BREAKING: The estate's monumental 601 PAGES of exhibits + motion for summary judgment against Wade Robson will be shared momentarily.

The complete filing has been posted here:


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WADE ROBSON CASE: SUMMARY JUDGMENT AND EXHIBITS
The estate has filed a 31 page motion for summary judgment, 33 page statement of undisputed facts & 601 pages of accompanying exhibits including depo excerpts & supporting records.
Will be decided Feb. 24.
https://mjjr.net/docs/2020-12-08-Wade-S ... dgment.pdf

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Messaggio da soulmum » 9 dicembre 2020, 9:19

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In Wade's book he painted the picture of his parents being the most responsible ones. They "left him inside that lion's den" and made him trust MJ, where abuse began only when they were gone.
This didn't make as much sense when suing the estate as the responsible parties.

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Messaggio da soulmum » 9 dicembre 2020, 16:04

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Finaldi's response to estate will have salacious excerpts & hearsay.

His star witnesses boil down to:
- Michaels—who insists they should sue their MOMS & second-guessed her own stories.
- Blanca—who admitted to police pressure & said 6x under oath she saw nothing.
Good luck.

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SAFECHUCK CASE UPDATE: As anticipated, this week Finaldi has filed a formal notice of appeal over Safechuck's dismissal.
This will now proceed in the same familiar process as their appeals from 2018-2019, with Holly Boyer again taking lead on the appellate matters for Finaldi.
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Note that this is the 3rd concurrent appeal Finaldi has made.
He has filed appeal for EVERY ruling made against him this year:
- Sanctions against him for his failed motion for protective order against estate
- Denial to depose Lily & Tabitha
- Safechuck's demurrer (dismissal)


This is the last time he can appeal on any of the causes in his complaint.
If he fails, he can attempt to request an en banc hearing where all judges review it, and could request a supreme court hearing. But less than 1% chance either would agree to hear it.
The final stretch.

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Bartucci: I didn't realize my "abuse" until I watched Court TV in 2003 when NL was raided.
Safechuck: I didn't realize my "abuse" until I saw Wade on TV in May 2013.
So many dumb parallels. The media opted to selectively dismiss Bartucci's claims while blindly believing James'.
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Bartucci's case was another that dragged on through the court systems for half a decade—repeated motions for reconsideration, appeals and even a request for hearing at the supreme court level.
It all was denied, but not before years of frivolous litigation in pursuit of money.

In Safechuck's case he told Oprah (2019) that he didn't realize he was abused until seeing Wade in May 2013.
He told Gayle (2019) he likely would've taken the secret to his grave if MJ were living.
But his lawsuit (2014) claims he told mom he was abused in 2005.
Makes sense...

Who is Bartucci?

An accuser that came along in the middle of the Arvizo scandal.
The media barely wrote about him. Years later he was still trying to write books and tell his "story."
2004: https://rollingstone.com/music/music-ne ... er-103977/

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WADE ROBSON CASE UPDATE: Here's the final order re: Dec. 4 hearing—Finaldi's motion for reconsideration of Spence/Fox/Lily/Marks depos.
As a reminder, the judge again denied all of Finaldi's motions & advanced estate's summary judgment hearing to 2/24.
https://mjjr.net/docs/2020-12-11-Motion ... -Order.pdf

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