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Vince Finaldi's firm, who represents #LeavingNeverland Robson and Safechuck, recently paid a 7-figure settlement for fabricating evidence and forging documents to support another bogus abuse claim & documentary.
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Michael Jackson Accuser Wade Robson Compares Cover-Up of 'Pedophilic Tendencies' to Catholic Church Scandal

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TheBlastJuly 28, 2019

Michael Jackson accuser Wade Robson is still fighting the MJ estate, along with corporations that were owned by the pop star, and in new legal documents he compares Jackson's enablers to priests inside the Catholic church.

In explosive new legal documents obtained by The Blast, Robson argues that employees of MJ's companies were responsible for connecting Robson with Jackson. Robson even specifically mentions the person who actually set up the first meeting of the two of them.

Robson says this employee "was responsible for organizing all of [Robson's] meetings with Jackson during this time." Robson claims the person was "the gatekeeper" and was "privy to all of his patterns with children."

He says that "any sensible adult who was that close, knowing almost everything about what Michael did every single day because she scheduled it ... for her to the be the gatekeeper, is the one that sent me by setting up this meeting into a pedophile's hand."

Wade Robson's lawsuit against Jackson's estate and his companies is in the court of appeal, after losing the first round of the legal fight in the trial courts. These new documents in his appeal point out how he believes the "Defendants did nothing to protect children such as Plaintiff from such horrific abuse and indeed went so far as to facilitate the very circumstances and environment for the abuse to occur and flourish."

In his argument, he cites one of the most famous child sexual abuse scandals in history, the case against the Catholic church. Specifically, how any third party has a duty to do something, if they suspect abuse of a child, "to report known or suspected child abuse to law enforcement."

Robson then quotes Cardinal Roger Mahoney, from testimony he gave in a case involving a priest, and how the church handled the reporting of such crimes. Mahoney said at the time, "If anyone has knowledge that a child is in danger, physically, emotionally, sexually, anyone, any human being has to do something about that."

Robson points out that in his case "reasonable actions could have included steps completely unrelated to Jackson himself (i.e. warning [Robson's] parents, or reporting the abused to officials."

He continues, "They did nothing because Jackson was simply too powerful to be controlled. The role defendants played in orchestrating the sexual abuse and patently failing to protect [Robson] from it was nothing short of deplorable. The evidence reveals that defendants actively assisted Jackson in his sexual pursuit of him."

As in the HBO documentary "Leaving Neverland," Robson is very graphic in detailing the assaults and how many people were responsible for the pop star's actions. Starting when he "was just seven-years old Michael Jackson began sexually molesting him. They did not dispute that from age 7 to 14, [Robson] was repeatedly, sexually abused by Jackson and that such abuse included fondling, kissing, as well as oral sex (both given and received) and anal sex."

Robson claims the employees of the pop star were involved in every aspect of the abuse, claiming they "arranged for the introductions, the meetings, and the logistics of the travel to put Jackson in a position to sexually abuse. Rather than protecting [Robson] and other children from sexual abuse by Jackson, they implemented measures designed to conceal the abuse and make it harder for victims' families and the authorities to discover the abuse."

Interestingly, he even claims in the new docs that the MJ estate "concedes for purposes of this appeal that despite being aware of Jackson's pedophilic tendencies, they did nothing to protect other children form such abuse is aware that the child is exposed to a perpetrator who has sexually abused children in the past."

As The Blast previously reported, the MJ estate has previously argued that MJ cannot defend himself now that he is dead and Robson is now "free to press his accusations against Jackson in the court of public opinion -- as he has done so loudly and repeatedly -- without fear of being sued for defamation."

Estate attorneys also pointed out during the appeal process that Robson missed the cutoff to file against any of MJ's companies, and strongly believe he does not meet the criteria for an exception.

Finally, they point out, even Robson's own mother thought the King of Pop was "innocent" when she was testified in front of a grand jury back in 1994.

Robson's attorneys responded by saying, "The righteousness of Defendants position is puzzling and frankly disturbing. [Robson] has every right to pursue his claim against an entity who literally did nothing to protect him for the rampant sexual abuse he suffered."

The case is now with the court of Appeals, and will be decided by a panel of judges as to if or not the case will continue.

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It was Wade's Mum who did the facilitating. The guy lies with every damned thing he does. Thinks we might not notice!

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Yep .. the whole MJFacts site is nothing but Troll spin using NAMBLA propaganda -- no wonder #WadeRobson email that link to himself & used it as a resource against #MichaelJackson - this is When behavior bespeaks intentions.
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So #WadeRobson utilized allegations from MJFacts site to write/ rewrite different versions of his own supposed abuse by #MichaelJackson and this "alone permanently destroyed Wade's credibility" A JUDGE finding statements less than credible will toss a case -

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Wade's mother, Joy testified that they really did NOT spend that much time with #MichaelJackson ..History does NOT jive with Wade Robson's current story - (link: https://themichaeljacksonallegations.co ... on-part-2/) themichaeljacksonallegations.com/2018/05/12/the…

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Michael Jackson Accuser Wade Robson Criticizes MTV’s ‘Unfortunate Choice’ to Keep Jackson’s Name on Vanguard Award (Exclusive)
Robson was one of the men to accuse Jackson of child molestation in HBO’s “Leaving Neverland”

Margeaux Sippell | August 12, 2019

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Wade Robson, who detailed sexual abuse accusations against Michael Jackson in the HBO documentary “Leaving Neverland,” said on Monday that it is “unfortunate” that MTV will keep the pop icon’s name on its Video Vanguard Award at this year’s VMAs.

The network announced Monday that Missy Elliott will be the latest recipient of the award, which was named for Jackson in 1991, before the first molestation accusations against him surfaced in 1993. Robson and another man, James Safechuck, reignited the discussion around Jackson when they spoke at length for the documentary.

“I don’t personally need MTV to do one thing or the other, but as child abuse survivors all over the world watch to see whether society will support them or not if they have the courage to come forward, in that regard, it’s an unfortunate choice,” Robson told TheWrap Monday.

MTV did not immediately respond to requests for comment about its decision to keep Jackson’s name on the award, which it described in a news release Monday as the “VMAs’ highest honor.”

The network began handing out the Video Vanguard Award in 1984, when the VMAs were still known as the Video Music Awards. Past recipients have included Jackson, Jennifer Lopez, Beyoncé, Justin Timberlake, Madonna, Guns N’ Roses, Britney Spears, Kanye West, Rihanna, and P!nk.

Jackson was acquitted of child molestation in a 2005 trial involving another minor. The singer also settled another child molestation accusation in 1993. Jackson, who died in 2009, always denied any inappropriate behavior, and his family has denounced the HBO documentary.

But in “Leaving Neverland,” Robson and Safechuck described in detail how Jackson repeatedly molested them and influenced and tricked their families into trusting him. Robson testified during Jackson’s 2005 trial that Jackson never abused him, but explained in the documentary that he did so in part because he believed Jackson’s life was in danger.

Robson is a well-known choreographer who traveled the world with Jackson as a child. He has worked with Spears and NSYNC, among others.

Safechuck did not immediately respond to a request for comment on Monday.

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Vincent Paterson, best known for helping #MichaelJackson develope the Smooth Criminal choreography has HAD ENOUGH with #WadeRobson .

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Michael Jackson Accuser Wade Robson's 2016 Deposition Released In Video Exposing 'Lies of Leaving Neverland'

Wade Robson was videotaped for a 2016 deposition as part of his lawsuit against Michael Jackson's companies, and pieces of it have just been released in a video pointing out all the alleged flaws and issues with Robson and James Safechuck's accusations against the singer.

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The video, which has been posted online under the title "Lies of Leaving Neverland," is a direct attack on the validity of "Leaving Neverland," the documentary about Robson and Safechuck's claims they were abused by Michael Jackson.

The video says "Leaving Neverland" is filled with "provable lies, conflicting accounts, contradictions, staged reshoots, faked scenes, reconstructed memories, critical information omissions, manipulated news clips, discredited source material" and that "key motives" are ignored.

The video is around 30 minutes long and lays out what its makers believe are key holes in the accusers' stories.

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In total, 29 parties were deposed as part of Wade Robson's litigation. 25 of them were videotaped. MJ's estate recorded 7 and Wade's team recorded 18.
The estate billed Wade's side for the cost of these deposition tapes ($16k) as part of $109k in total bill recovery requests

In total, the estate wasted more than $193,000 and 6+ years of time and energy on Wade's frivolous and repeatedly failed money-seeking lawsuit.
Until the appeals process fully concludes (including Finaldi's inevitable en banc attempt & SCOTUS plea) these expenses will continue.

Some depos included:
Wade/Joy/Chantel/Shane/Amanda/Koziolas (Family Therapist in Hawaii)
Jason/Blanca/Evangeline/Goforth (Francia BS)
Hearne/Michaels/Thomas/Starks (NL5 BS)
Levine/Coller (Safechuck BS)...
Kane/Branca/Niall/Evvy Tavasci (Legal/Rep)
Many familiar tabloid faces.

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Here is an e-mail in which Wade asking his mother in 2012 about the events in 1993. It is clear he doesn't remember anything.

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After all of the calculations, exceptions and exclusions were tallied up, the Robson's still wound up owing big time to the estate.
We know that as of February 2019, Finaldi & co. owe more than $70k to MJJ for Wade/James failures.
They'll drag out paying through end of appeal.

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Another LIE of James Safechuck in his court declaration- He claimed MJ & his attorneys begged him to testify in 2005- He was determined to be a NON-Entity by the Judge. #LiesOfLeavingNeverland piling up
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In James 2nd amended complaint where it says abuse started in 1988 on the BAD tour, he says that MJJ Ventures are "madams" or "procurers" of CSA victims. As hes suing the Estate, he has to explain their involvement

MJJ Ventures didn't exsist until 1991.
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"Thanks to MJ for allowing us to use his sacred land" https://bit.ly/31OKeMN
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@MJJRepository Wade Robson Appeal Process - Judges and Procedures

A panel of three (out of four) California appellate judges of the 2nd district, division 8, will be reviewing the merits of Wade's appeal to ultimately affirm or reverse the original judge's dismissal.

With the appellate process, judges will review the full case including all exhibits that were part of the case-in-chief.

No new evidence can be entered during the appeals process. The decision is whether Judge Beckloff erred by dismissing the case based on the known facts & law.

To be successful in the appeals process, the appellant (Wade) needs to convince at least two out of three of the judges that Beckloff acted against well-established law.

The original dismissal will stand if at least 2 judges determine Beckloff did not act improperly in ruling.

The choice of judges will be randomized but will be three of the following four judges, summaries and notes will follow:

* Presiding - Tricia A. Bigelow ('08)
* Associate - Elizabeth A. Grimes ('10)
* Associate - Maria E. Stratton ('18)
* Associate - John Shepard Wiley Jr. ('18)

Presiding Justice: Tricia A. Bigelow (2008+)

Former LA Deputy DA/AG (86-95)

Co-authored extensive written materials on CA sex crime law.

Recently affirmed high sanctions against school due to "frivolous appeal...no reasonable attorney could have believed an appeal had merit."

Associate Justice: Elizabeth A. Grimes (2010+)

Former longtime partner of private litigation firm (1980+).

Specialty: Business disputes and negligence claims.

Aptly dismissed a case where plaintiff claimed injury w/out any evidence after defense presented contradictory facts.

Associate Justice Maria E. Stratton (2018+)

Former law clerk, public defender, attorney & judge.

Specialty: General criminal/civil litigation; mental health.

Worked for many years w/ Dean Gits including as public defender; Gits defended the innocent in McMartin sex abuse hoax.

Associate Justice John Shepard Wiley Jr. (2018+)

Former supreme court clerk, law professor, prosecutor, circuit judge.

As a professor in the 1990s, commented to media about false convictions based on erroneous testimony/witnesses, prosecution theatrics and DNA exonerations.

Note that while the tidbits of information about each judge may be interesting, they must all conform to strictly established case law when evaluating each individual appeal.

Personal opinions & experiences generally have no merit to the legal decision they ultimately arrive at.

After the judges have reviewed the briefs, a hearing for oral arguments will be set (unless waived).

Both appeals (James+Wade) have been combined for oral arguments. Each side has a short time to answer ?s from judges.

Judges usually have their opinions in mind by this point.

While some California districts offer online audio or visual streams of oral arguments, the second district does not.

However, oral arguments can be attended by the public & audio recorded copies can be requested for a $40 fee.

No court transcripts are made for oral arguments
Oral arguments can, at times, help foreshadow each judge's ultimate ruling based on their demeanor and questions asked of each side.

Since the judges will have been fully briefed before oral arguments, their questions often align w/ trying to solidify their existing viewpoint.

The final decision will be released as a singular opinion written by one of the elected judges. The other judges will concur or dissent.

In the majority of cases, all three judges share the same opinion. If one judge disagrees, he or she can optionally write a dissent excerpt.

Appellate decisions are always released to the public the day they are filed at https://courts.ca.gov/opinions.htm. They can be "published" or "unpublished", which determines whether or not they are certified for citation in other court cases.

The majority of opinions are unpublished.

The panel of judges (division 8) have released 66 opinions over the last two months; 16 published.

* Bigelow - 52 Opinions
* Wiley - 50 Opinions
* Stratton - 49 Opinions
* Grimes - 45 Opinions

AFFIRMED: 43
AFFIRMED+REMANDED: 12
REVERSED: 8
DISMISSED: 3

Less than 15% reversed.

In some cases the judges ask to remand portions back to trial court, while still affirming the ruling & denying the appeal. The remanded portions are generally not substantial in the scope of the overall case and trial/appellate rulings.

Very rarely do appeals lead to reversals.
It is not uncommon for the judges to ask failed appellants to pay for expenses incurred by respondents.

If Wade's petition is denied, they may end up owing even more money to the estate based on all additional expenses accumulated since December 2017 on top of existing debts.

The average length of an appellate opinion from these four judges is 15 pages, but they can be as brief as two pages or as long as 50+ pages to cover all of the arguments.

The 66 opinions given in two months by these appointed judges span 1,022 pages in total.

After the opinion, the losing side has 3 options:

1.) Accept ruling and halt future appeals.
2.) File for en banc hearing (all judges).
3.) File petition for SCOTUS.

Options 2-3 are nearly impossible to have honored; less than 1-2% of all cases are accepted for those actions.

There is no fixed timeline for when an appeal is decided. A reasonable estimate is anywhere from 3-10 months after receiving all of the briefs.

If oral arguments are held, generally the opinion will be filed soon thereafter (3-6 weeks) but this too is entirely variable.

In Summary: To win the appeal Wade's side has to convince at least two of the three appellate judges—based strictly on law and other case examples—that the trial court was wrong in dismissing their case.

Statistically there is < 15% chance of the judges reversing a court ruling.

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Karma is coming for Wade.



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Wade Robson claims with no proof that MJ's Estate have been "terrifying and paying off victims for years".
The Estate had the chance to quietly pay him off in May 2013 and avoid this whole ordeal, they didn't.
Actions speak louder than words. #LiesOfLeavingNeverland

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I personally think that Wade's bottom lip was shaking with emotion because he's suddenly realised he is now out of his depth and the lies are coming back to haunt him.




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Which victims were terrified by the Estate? Which victim was paid of by the Estate? This guy is just saying the biggest lies and gets away with it.
They wanted the Estate to pay them from the get go and they did not


And when did the Estate silence him? He says he defended MJ because he didn't think it was abuse. now he says he was silenced by the Estate ? How?

That quote is from a BuzzFeed interview that happened a few hours before the AfterNeverland special. I do also recall similar remarks being made and getting cut from broadcast in a write up from an audience member/journalist, I think?

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Robson, Safechuck and their shared legal team are also lobbying a new bill under the name 'The Leaving Neverland Support Network'. If passed, could enable them to sue for TREBLE damages. It is no surprise they lie repeatedly to implicate MJ's companies:
https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/face ... 20200AB218

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Remember when Finaldi said that Robson and Safechuck have been diagnosed with post traumatic stress disorder (PTSD)? I wonder how and why when according to Reed his subjects looked so unemotional in LN while talking about the alleged abuse because it wasn't traumatic for them.
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Reed reasons that with saying "It's not like they were raped. It was pleasant and not traumatic at all." So what are they going to say where did the trauma that caused the PTSD come from? From the break-up?


Or just from the secrets they had to keep - like Reed says in this interview? NAMBLA can't believe its luck with these three useful idiots!



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Re Robson v MJ Estate: Oral arguments will be heard on 10/2. I do not know enough about the legalities of this case to comment. @MJJRepository covers this case.
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This was published in 2013 - some interesting points made.

https://www.showbiz411.com/2013/06/30/m ... ade-robson


by Roger Friedman - June 30, 2013 11:09 am
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Wade Robson is the young man who is now suing Michael Jackson’s estate. He claims Jackson molested him from age 7 to 14. Thanks to the re-surfacing of old “files” from the old “National Enquirer” in the British press today, I had go to back and look through my files from 2005. And what I found is pretty interesting.

I met with a young man named Bobby Newt, a kid from the files whom National Enquirer reporter Jim Mitteager targeted as a Michael Jackson “victim.” By 2005 he was an adult, and I met with him. He told me nothing happened to him. He also added that nothing happened to Wade Robson, who was then going to be a witness in the trial.

Bobby Newt and his two brothers, who wanted to be the next Jackson 5, spent two weeks with Michael at his Hayvenhurst house in Encino (this was before Neverland). This is what I wrote:

“…nothing about what Bobby Newt hears now about himself or others makes sense.

“I don’t know what to believe. He had prime time with me and my brother in the guest room for two weeks,” he said. “And he didn’t try anything.”

As a footnote to all of this: In the small world of the Los Angeles music business, Bobby Newt recently worked with choreographer and alleged Jackson “victim” Wade Robson on tracks for his first album, a potential hit compendium of original R&B ballads.

“Wade is straight as they come. He’s getting married. And nothing ever happened to him, either,” Newt said.

Published April 7, 2005
Former Protege Vouches for Jackson
No matter who testifies next in Michael Jackson‘s alleged “prior acts” of sexual abuse mini-trial, the prosecution will have to deal with the fact that only one boy will show up to say he was molested many years ago by the pop star.

Now comes Robert Newt, 30, long a “Holy Grail” for The National Enquirer from its investigation into Jackson circa 1993.

Newt and his twin brother Ronald Newt Jr. (now deceased) were aspiring performers and spent two weeks as guests in the Jackson family home in Encino, Calif., around 1985. They were about 11 years old. This all occurred before Neverland was completed. Michael, Janet Jackson and LaToya Jackson were all there, as well as the Jackson parents.

Fast-forward to December 1993. The National Enquirer, desperate to get a scoop that Jackson has abused children, heard that the Newt kids once spent time with Jackson.

The tabloid offered the Newts’ father, Ronald Newt Sr., $200,000 to say that something happened between his kids and Jackson.

Newt, a San Francisco “character” and filmmaker whose past includes pimping and jail time, considered the offer.

A contract was drawn up, signed by Enquirer editor David Perel. Enquirer reporter Jim Mitteager, who is also now deceased, met with Newt and his son at the Marriott hotel in downtown San Francisco.

It seemed that all systems were go. But the Newts declined the offer at the last minute.

Ron Newt Sr., to whom $200,000 would have seemed like the world on a silver platter, wrote “No good sucker” where his signature was supposed to go. The reason: Nothing ever happened between Jackson and the Newt boys.

Indeed, no kids, no matter how much money was dangled by the tabloids, ever showed up to trade stories of Jackson malfeasance for big lumps of cash after the first scandal broke in 1993.

“Maybe there aren’t any other kids,” a current Enquirer editor conceded.

I met Bobby Newt yesterday near the office where he works as a mortgage broker in suburban Los Angeles.

Just as his dad promised me a few days earlier, he’s a good-looking kid. He’s half black and half Chinese.

Robert and his twin brother were likely very cute kids. They have the same features as other boys advertised as alleged Neverland “victims.” But all Bobby Newt remembers of his encounter with Jackson is good times.

And all he remembers about the man from The National Enquirer is that he wanted Bobby, then 18, to lie.

“He said, ‘Say he grabbed you on the butt. Say he grabbed you and touched you in any kind of way,'” Newt said. “He told us he took all these people down. Now he was going to take Michael down. That he would really destroy him. He told us he took all these other famous people down. All the major people that had scandals against them. He said, ‘We take these people down. That’s what we do.'”

Prior to Bobby’s meeting with Mitteager, Bobby’s father met with him and brought along an intermediary, San Francisco politician, businessman and fellow jailbird Charlie Walker.

Walker is infamous in San Francisco circles for being “hooked up” to anything interesting cooking on the West Coast.

“My dad said these dudes are offering this money to take Michael Jackson down. And the guy [Mitteager] said, ‘Say he touched you. All you have to do is say it. But you might have to take the stand. You might have to go on ‘Oprah’ in front of all these people. You have to be prepared for this thing. Just say it. And we’ll give you money,'” Newt said.

Two pieces of evidence confirm the Newts’ story. One is the actual contract proffered by the Enquirer and signed by Perel, who declined to comment for this story.

The contract, written as a letter, says it’s an agreement between the tabloid and the Newts for their exclusive story regarding “your relationship with and knowledge of Michael Jackson, and his sexuality, your knowledge of Michael Jackson’s sexual contact and attempts at sexual contact with Robert Newt and others.”

Mitteager expected them to sign, even though it was completely untrue and there was, in fact, no story.

He knew you were lying, I reminded Bobby Newt.

“Exactly! And he didn’t care! He was like, ‘Just say it and we’ll give you the money.’ And I was like, ‘He [Jackson] never touched me!” Newt said. “He [Mitteager] was really fishing and really digging. Think about it — most people you say it to, ‘We’ll give you this money,’ even [if it’s not true]. And they’d take it.”

Bobby Newt recalled more details of the 30-minute meeting with The National Enquirer’s reporter:

“He was trying to coach me — if I decided to take the money, what would happen. He said ‘You know, it’s going to be a huge scandal. You’ll probably have a lot of people not liking you. You’re going to be famous!’ But to me, you’d be ruined. And the truth is Michael didn’t do anything even close to trying to molest us.”

Ironically, the second piece of evidence also backs up the Newts’ story. Unbeknownst to them, they were taped by Mitteager.

I told you last week that Mitteager did more surreptitious taping than Richard Nixon. When he died, the tapes were left to Hollywood investigator Paul Barresi. His dozens of hours of tapes include a conversation between Mitteager, Ron Newt Sr. and Charlie Walker.

When I read some of the transcript back to Newt the other day, he was shocked.

“I said all that,” he observed, surprised to have his memory prodded some 12 years later.

Back in the mid-’80s, Ron Newt Sr. put his three sons together as a singing group much as Joseph Jackson did. He called them The Newtrons.

After much pushing, he got the attention of Joe Jackson, who agreed to manage the group. Joe Jackson got the Newtrons a showcase at the Roxy in West Hollywood.

Michael showed up and loved them. The result was a two-week stay for the boys at the Encino house on Hayvenhurst Ave., where they were supposed to work on their music.

“We would see Michael in passing. We didn’t see him, maybe, because he was working on an album. We saw him downstairs in the kitchen and we talked to him,” he said.

The Newtrons eventually got a record contract and recorded the Jackson 5 hit “I Want You Back” at Hayvenhurst. They also spent the night at Tito Jackson‘s house. But nothing about what Bobby Newt hears now about himself or others makes sense.

“I don’t know what to believe. He had prime time with me and my brother in the guest room for two weeks,” he said. “And he didn’t try anything.”

As a footnote to all of this: In the small world of the Los Angeles music business, Bobby Newt recently worked with choreographer and alleged Jackson “victim” Wade Robson on tracks for his first album, a potential hit compendium of original R&B ballads.

Jackson’s former maid Blanca Francia implicated Robson in the case during Monday’s testimony. Robson is not testifying for the prosecution.

“Wade is straight as they come. He’s getting married. And nothing ever happened to him, either,” Newt said.

He shakes his head, thinking about those who have made claims against Jackson.

“You have to look at these people, go back and see when their relationship with Michael fractured. The calls stopped coming,” he said.

And Newt should know. After the adventure in 1985, the Newts never saw Jackson again. It didn’t bother them, Bobby says, as much as it might have others.

“They probably didn’t like it. And this is their way of getting back at him,” he said.

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Austin Brown telling it like it is .. Wade Robson was offered money years ago to do exactly what he's doing now for money ... Is that clear enough? #MichaelJackson innocent then, innocent now.. #LiesOfLeavingNeverland

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From fans on Twitter

''Oral arguments will be heard on 10/2/19 for the appeal of Robson v MJ Estate.
Big thanks to @w********* for pointing that out. I am not covering this case, but @MJJRepository is.''


Each side will get 10-30 minutes to argue their legal position to the panel of judges. The judges will have already reviewed the case file and usually ask many questions to clarify issues.

Oral arguments can be attended in person and copies of the audio can be ordered from the court afterward for $40.
Unfortunately, the 2nd circuit does not stream audio or video online unlike some other districts.
There will likely be a small media presence during the hearing.

Likely location: Ronald Reagan State Building
300 S Spring St B-228
Los Angeles, CA 90013


Wade's side will address the court first. They will briefly reiterate their arguing points as to why MJ's companies should be liable for the alleged misconduct contrary to the original court's decision. His lawyers can optionally reserve some time to respond after MJ's side goes.

The only parties delivering oral arguments will be a designated attorney from both sides. Selected attorneys are ones w/ strong experience in appeals and arguing oral arguments, not the normal attys).

There is no fixed timeline after oral arguments for when the decision will be published. Expect 2-5 months between oral arguments and the decision, although it may come sooner or later.

The written decision (deny-or-grant) will be published as soon as the judges file it.

The losing side can either accept the decision or attempt to request an en banc hearing and/or supreme court arguments. Such motions are exceedingly rare to be granted (e.g., less than 1%).

If a subsequent appeal is attempted, expect another 1-2 years of delays for a conclusion.

If MJ's side were to win (statistically likely), the appeals court could order Wade & James to pay additional fees/sanctions to the estate, or at least legally enforce the existing amount still owed from their previously failed litigation efforts (in excess of $70,000).

(With thanks to @MJJRepository on Twitter)

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Gangsta Wade, 12, rapped to songs about prostitutes, unprotected sex & STDs, drugs. His personality in private & public was that he'd crush anyone who dared defy him.
He now wants world to believe he was so naive—thru his 20s—he didn't know 7 yrs of grotesque "CSA" was abuse.

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Oral arguments in Wade's appeal will be heard in front of 3 judges on October 2nd.
Wade's side will be given 25 minutes to argue their appeal and defend their legal arguments.
MJ's side will be given 30 minutes to respond and explain why the original court's denial is sound.

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Robson vs. MJJ Productions: Update

* Since I posted about it a few days ago, I want let you guys know that the court date for the oral arguments between Robson & MJJ Productions has been pushed to October 24th at 1 p.m.

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Here is the attorney who will be delivering 25 minutes of oral arguments for Wade's side on Oct 24.
Holly Boyer specializes in appellate cases with concentration on sexual abuse claims in schools and organizations.
She is the one who first initiated the appeals for Wade/James.
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Boyer has represented appellants in 135 cases in California appellate court. The majority of them (84) have been in the same division as Wade/James.
She has also motioned for appeals to the supreme court in 48 cases, two of which wound up being reversed relating to sexual abuse.

Specifically in the 8th division panel where Wade/James' appeals are, Boyer has been the attorney-at-charge in 10 appellate cases (including Wade and James).
Two of her prior cases were ruled on [deny] by 1-2 judges involved in Wade's appeal (most were dismissed/withdrawn).

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Messaggio da soulmum » 8 ottobre 2019, 11:01

Sounds as if Joy Robson had been telling Michael sob stories to get this message back from him. I believe this family was all about how much money they could get from him, total free loaders.
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Just for entertainment value. These are taken directly from Robson's complaint. Shows the kind of delusion he has about himself. Virtually no other individual to date in the entertainment industry has achieved success in so many diverse areas" and "international superstar". LOL.
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Wade Robson Appeal Update:

In light of Bill 218 & Wade's side arguing that this helps their case, the court has now POSTPONED (yet again) oral arguments until NOVEMBER 18TH, 2019.
Both sides today submitted letters relating to this bill, with Wade's side naturally favoring it.

Both sides are to submit briefs arguing their position re: AB 218 by 10/25. Questions court asks:
1 - Does it apply to the pending appeal?
2 - Are Wade's claims timely now, invalidating original statute denial?
3 - What issues beyond timeliness remain to be decided on appeal?

The appeal will drag on well into next spring at this point.
If the court determines Wade's original complaint is now timely according to the new law and that this alone can reverse the original judge's dismissal, it will be back to civil trial.
Expect more appeals & delays.

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Some of Wade's rambling.

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He think's he's the second coming now!
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Among the countless emails that Wade Robson tried to hide from the court during his multi-million dollar quest against the MJ Estate there was this one: both he and his mother were writing a book about MJ. In wade's case, about the "abuse". How many versions does the truth have?
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By request, the court has extended the time for Wade's side to submit their motion in support of Bill 218 and how it impacts their case, by 3 days.
Wade's side will file it by October 28, MJ's side will file response by November 7. Oral arguments still scheduled for November 18.

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Michael Jackson's Accusers Using New California Child Abuse Sex Law To Fight Singer's Estate

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Wade Robson and James Safechuck are hoping to get another shot at a financial windfall from the estate of Michael Jackson and he's citing a newly signed California law meant to support victims of childhood sexual assault.

According to legal documents, obtained by The Blast, letters were filed with the appellate court where they continue to fight the MJ estate, citing Assembly Bill 218 that Gavin Newsom signed into law on October 13, 2019.

In the letter, James and Wade are asking the court for an "opportunity to submit supplemental briefing as to the new law and its effect on this action." Translation: The new law may drastically change the case.

The law takes effect on January 1, 2020 and is designed to extend the time for victims for childhood sexual assault. According to the law, the new period to sue direct perpetrators of such crimes is either the victim's 40th birthday or within five years after the victim discovers the psychological injury from the sexual assault.

Wade Robson is 37 years old. James Safechuck is 41.

As far as the Michael Jackson estate, or any of late King of Pop's companies Wade filed the lawsuit against, claims against third-party non-perpetrators, a victim may also only sue up to his or her 40th birthday.

There is an exception, and it is unless the company or its officers, "knew or had reason to know, or was otherwise on notice, of any misconduct that creates a risk of childhood sexual assault by an employee, volunteer, representative, or agent, or the person or entity failed to take reasonable steps or to implement reasonable steps or to implement reasonable safeguards to avoid acts of childhood sexual assault."

Wade Robson has claimed through his lawsuit that his assault at the hands of MJ, was not only known by people around Jackson but facilitated by them. Specifically, Robson says people working for the various companies set up meetings and helped deliver kids to spend time with him.

A judge dismissed Wade Robson's lawsuit against Michael Jackson's estate in 2015, saying that Robson had filed his lawsuit too late to get any of Jackson’s estate.

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The two parties left in the case, at that point, corporate entities owned by Jackson MJJ Productions, Inc., and MJJ Ventures, Inc. were dismissed in 2017.

They have appealed the decision and the case sites with the appellate court. During the process, Robson and Safechuck were featured in the documentary "Leaving Neverland" where he described in detail his allegations against Jackson.The MJ estate responded to the request saying, regardless of the law change this appeal should end before Jan 1, 2020. The case should be concluded based on the law that is in place today. They ask that the case not be delayed.

The appellate court issued an order asking both sides to submit arguments addressing the following questions, (1) Do the revisions in AB 218 apply to the claims pending in these appeals? (2) If AB 218 applies, are plaintiffs' claims timely under the revised statute? Is the parties' dispute over timeliness now moot? (3) What issues unrelated to the timeliness of plaintiffs' claims, if any, remain to be decided on appeal? "

The law firm Panish Shea & Boyle, who supported the bill through the legislative process, says, "The bill is a critical step forward for survivors of child sexual assault and is instrumental in the effort to protect California’s children. The bill additionally extends the civil statute of limitations to age 40 or anytime thereafter within five years of discovering related psychological injury. This statute of limitations was previously set at age 26, or within three years of discovery.

The continued, "Data suggests that survivors of childhood sexual abuse typically do not tell anyone about the abuse until they are well into their adulthood. Survivors can finally help protect today’s children by ensuring that what happened to them does not happen to another child."

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The statements were made primarily targeting the Catholic Church and the Boy Scott's of America. But, it may impact this case involving Michael Jackson and Wade Robson.

The case is due back in court in November for a hearing on the case.

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Messaggio da soulmum » 28 ottobre 2019, 8:58

Interesting theory.


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The 3 beLIEvers were, for many viewers, more impressionable than Wade. Although their most emotional moments came not from speaking of the alleged abuse, but of their abandoned father/husband.
Do they have any heightened reason to buy into Wade's newfound abuse narrative?
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According to Reed's own fumbling defense as to why he didn't reach out to anyone on MJ's side, nobody else was in the room so they'd be irrelevant. Yet he dedicates huge portions of LN to the words of personally-vested family members who were likewise "not in the room."

Joy - Has forever held manager-like roles in what she hoped would be lucrative ventures w/ Wade & Chantal. Part of Wajero / Robson Project & other now-failed initiatives through this decade, always trying to be the successful businesswoman of the Robson household, even as adults.
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Joy is also riddled with credit card debt and long-term mortgage payments. She has drifted in-and-out of homes & loans thru this millennium, as her "Joe Jackson" level empire of dreams diminished. This fall, she faces debt collectors over repeatedly missing credit card payments.

In 2003, Joy and Wade collaboratively borrowed a $440,000 30-year mortgage at 5% adjustable interest to purchase a home together. Joy secured a second mortgage against the property in 2004 for $145,000
Wade eventually moved on and was removed as co-borrower, leaving Joy alone.
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In '07, Joy took out a $595k 30 yr. loan to consolidate prior loans & moved again in 2009 (to apartments).
In the same vein, Wade wound up selling his home in 2013 and downsizing with Amanda back to Hawaii, after years of repeated financial failures and self-imposed job refusal.

This year, Joy was pursued by bill collectors after repeatedly failing to pay minimum balances on credit card debt. This culminated in a lawsuit in August, with American Express seeking more than $4,250 in unpaid dues.
Note that Joy still uses Wade's business as her own on card.
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Chantal - Not to exclude Wade's sister, Chantal (along with her husband) have a federal tax lien against them as of 2019 from the IRS, after failing to pay their past due balances annually over the past four years. The total owed on this lien exceeds $13,800.

Chantal & husband have dabbled in a similar career path as Wade/Amanda, attempting to write and choreograph films but never having much success. Her husband wrote a single script that made it to a direct-to-DVD movie in 2012 that only grossed 1/24th the total it cost to produce.

The only notable project Chantal & husband had this decade was an attempted web series (Chantal-choreographer, husband-writer/director). A $30k Kickstarter failed w/ only $2,621 raised, the project flopped.
(Chantal's husband also had a $37k tax lien of his own back in 2012.)
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Shane deviates from the rest in that he's stayed clear of any attempted show business efforts (at least until his featured role in Leaving Neverland).
Shane and his wife have taken out numerous mortgages since the 2000s, including $656k in 2017 that they'll be paying until 2047.
The question becomes - how much of the family's beLIEfs in these abuse claims are built on sincerity, vs. the premise of Wade "winning the lottery" against estate (and/or 'MeToo' funding)?
A multi-million settlement would wipe clean the entire mountain of Robson family debt.

Shane & the wives of James+Wade had no direct association w/ them thru the timeline of alleged abuse. Their opinions are, therefore, even less relevant for inclusion in LN than by anyone who had actually been around the families & MJ at all during this time—people Reed ignored.

While one may argue Shane+wives believe claims due to ignorance of events, Chantal & Joy KNOW Wade's claims are impossible. They have testified how rare it was for them to visit when MJ was around (count on one hand) & as such Wade couldn't had been molested "100s of times."

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Robson vs. The MJE [Reminder]
Today Wades lawyers should submit their motion supporting bill 218. Bill changes the reference from childhood sexual abuse to childhood sexual assault. Removing statue of limitations. By default changes confidentiality around sexual abuse claims.

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Here's a refresher of Finaldi's feeble attempt to claim Safechuck was employed by MJ's companies (as required for $ suit).
He says that since it was MJ's agents who arranged meet-n-greets & JS danced on MJ's tour + stood next to him in photos, that is enough to be an employee.
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Robson vs. The MJE [11.7.19]
The MJE should be responding today, will be interesting to see what they have to say.

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Messaggio da soulmum » 7 novembre 2019, 15:07

The fans don't really have a lot of time for poor old Wade BUT it shows just how much he continues to be influenced by Michael. It also shows how ridiculous his lawsuit is saying he can no longer work in the entertainment industry. Seeing him dance shows me this will be very short lived!

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calling this out. Look at this guy. Even when his bum ass is teaching his DLS (Dance Like Sh*t) classes he still can't help but do MJ. Way to keep honoring the one who mentored you thruout your life & only wanted the best for you, a$$hole.

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Here's Robson flat out lying that he was forced to testify for MJ in 2005 with a subpoena. In reality he never got one and was happy to testify that MJ never molested him. Because he in fact never molested him.




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Meanwhile James pretends that MJ's lawyers called & threatened him (a disbarrable crime) instead of a simple subpoena. James didnt research 2005 trial enough to know he was barred from state testimony & that defense made it clear from day one they'd not call character witnesses.

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THREAD: Here are the specific points the estate argues with regard to the recent passing of AB 218. These will be the center points to the appellate decision and upcoming oral arguments.
These are the estate's responses to the court's specific questions following AB 218 passing:
7:36 AM · Nov 13, 2019

A. Applicability.
The estate concedes AB would allow late filing of claims if appeals aren't concluded by Jan. 1. This would eliminate partial—but not all—focus of appeal; with regard to 340.1(b)(2).
Estate reiterates that it would challenge applicability later as law evolves.
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B. Other Issues (1)
Estate argues appellate court must affirm case dismissal if it is a proper based on any other grounds stated in demurrer. This includes at least 4/6 other causes JS can't prove:
- Negligent Supervision
- Negligent Hiring
- Failure to Warn
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B. Other Issues (2)
Emphasis is placed on fact that appellate court can uphold trial ruling based on any other noted findings in the demurrer, whether or not the trial court intended the other (non time-related) findings to support the demurrer or acted upon them specifically.
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C (1). Both Cases Related
Estate concedes that unlike JS, WR's demurrer is based only on statute of limitations (likely reversed via AP 218).
But since they both argue same causes of action, court should wait to rule on WR's until after JS' is decided, based on arguments above.
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C (2). WR - Time Needed for New Discovery
Wade's case was litigated 4.5 years w/ less than 5 mo. left to try when summary judgment came. If remanded, estate needs time for new discovery relating to Wade's PR tour & LN etc. Appellate court should decide time options if remanded.
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The problem with Safechuck's copying-pasting pieces of his allegations direct from Wade's case can sometimes lead to a train station-like dilemma...
He alleges misconduct by MJJ Ventures in the 1980s for not protecting him / facilitating the abuse, but it did not exist until 91.
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