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THREAD: Robson and Safechuck's shared lawyers were so eager to have more "victims" jump on their wagon, that they pursued relentlessly and aggressively Jonathan Spence, an old friend of Michael's who has never had a bad word to say about him and also got married at Neverland.
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Eventually, Spence asked for the legal fees he had incurred for filing the protective motion. He also explained the vile treatment he was subjected to by Robson and Safechuck's legal team: so much for "advocating for victims"! (Although Spence never claimed to be one).
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Let's talk about Wade Robson lying under oath that he had no idea an MJ Estate existed, despite filing a multi-million dollar civil suit for alleged "abuse" when that same Estate refused to give him the job he wanted. You read those court files, right?
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Also notice how it is the positive and calm mood that is associated with Neverland in the film. How come if it was a scene of abuse for Wade? Also "sacred land". I am sure that's how all CSA victims remember the places they have been abused at.

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On Feb. 3-4, 2007, Wade & Amanda stayed at a Neverland cottage to film their music video where nature represented sanctity.
During that visit, Wade and Amanda took no less than 249 photos mostly for their own enjoyment, along w/ 8+ hours of filming.
None of that triggered Wade?

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Finaldi's arguments in James' case are the most absurd.
- Claims JS was "employed" by MJ w/out evidence (he never was in 88-92).
- Claims MJJ Ventures paid for JS travels, years before MJJ Ventures existed.
- Claims MJ companies "knew of the
unlawful sexual misconduct" in 88-92.

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Wade and his wife shooting a video at Neverland in 2007 - how come this didn't 'trigger' anything in his memories. The man is an absolute liar.


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Sharing rare & unseen outtakes of Wade & Amanda joking around on Michael's property in 2007 while staying for the weekend.
"It's beautiful!" -Amanda
"Look at what we've got. I mean, I'd have to be pretty bad to mess this up. It's all here for me!" -Wade
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MICHAEL JACKSON'S ACCUSERS
ROBSON, SAFECHUCK LIKELY TO GET NEW TRIALS

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The 2 men who sued Michael Jackson's estate and were the subject of the gut-wrenching "Leaving Neverland" documentary ... are set to get their day in court to press their sexual abuse claims against the singer's estate.

As you may know ... Wade Robson and James Safechuck sued MJ for sexual abuse, but their lawsuits were dismissed in 2017 -- partly due to the statute of limitations. Both men appealed their rulings and the cases have been stuck in appellate court ... until now.

We've learned the California Court of Appeal just issued a tentative ruling which would overturn the dismissals, on grounds a new California law extended the statute of limitations for child sexual abuse cases. That means Robson and Safechuck can have their cases heard before a jury.

It's not a done deal. As we said, the ruling is tentative. Oral arguments are set for this week, and the justices could change their minds, but typically the tentative ruling stands.

Now the MJ Estate has a number of other objections to claims, which will be addressed by the trial judge.

Wade and James' story aired on HBO in January, and their molestation claims sparked a movement to mute Michael Jackson and further tarnished his legacy. Jackson's family called "Leaving Neverland" an unfair "public lynching."

We reached out to reps from the MJ Estate and reps for the alleged victims. They all had no comment.

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Word on Robson case oral argument:
The new law gave The MJE no choice but to agree that the cases need to go back to trial for credibility reasons. A source close to the Estate has said that they feel very confident in the law and apart from the statute of limitations,

It's a win for The MJE.
If it got to a trial on the merits of actual accusations, there's even more confidence. Stating- "The train station is just the beginning of the provable lies."


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There will be discovery first and Safechuck will have to go through summary judgement first. His case was dismissed on demurrer


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I have no doubt their lies will be exposed in court like they were last time. My fear is that the media will horribly skew the coverage like they did in 2005. They already showed this when they didn’t report Jame’s huge Train station lie.

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This is obviously organized all for publicity. Calling TMZ, calling celebrity support, gathering James and Wade to court (they have never been there before, except for depositions) to pose for cameras in front of court. Pathetic.


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Wade & James' sidekick—Anthony Edwards. He was instrumental in recruiting CSA survivors for Oprah & had his group promoted on her show & HBO.
His last promoted story was about outrage over Dave Chappelle daring to disbelieve such "courageous" accusers.
Get used to seeing him.
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Annoyed at no invite for a private funeral for his alleged abuser? Who does that?

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Weitzman (TMZ): "The Appellate Court's tentative ruling is not on the merits of Robson and Safechuck's allegations and the Court in no way said that these cases will go to trial."
Weitzman is confident that the cases "will, once again, be dismissed as has happened before."

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Spot on: "The bill is opposed by California Civil Liberties Advocacy, which argues that [...] "extending the statute of limitations in civil suits is in more in the interests of the plaintiffs' lawyer industry than that of the abuse survivors".

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Dan Reed actually said this Oh my, maybe he should be very careful with what he wishes for. Could uncover the actual truth and blow LN completely out of the water.
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Wade & James combined qualifications v the evidence the MJ Estate has against them
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You see what a liar Finaldi is? He states that BOTH cases are going back to trial courts and then to trial. FALSE. The case against the Estate was not appealed so it can't go back. And there's no guarantee that there will be a new trial either. Finaldi is a LIAR.

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This is a MUST READ regarding Vince Finaldi's firm fishing for clients, which is illegal. AND, they intimate that the firm was attempting coercion! THIS is the law firm that represents both Robson and Safechuck.

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Wade Robson's Michael Jackson allegation timeline disproven by his mother

Wade Robson's timeline of events in his allegations of child sexual abuse against Michael Jackson has allegedly been disproven by his own mother in historic court documents.

The choreographer alleges in the HBO documentary 'Leaving Neverland' that the late King of Pop - who died in 2009 - sexually abused him after befriending him as a child.

Wade claims the abuse started when his family went to the Grand Canyon and he stayed behind with the 'Thriller' hitmaker, but according to biographer Mike Smallcombe, a court testimony from 1993 shows his mother Joy insisting that Wade did join them on their trip.

Mike has alleged that Wade's sexual abuse claims are a lie, as Joy testified under oath to say Wade came with her to the Grand Canyon, and therefore did not stay behind with Michael.

Speaking to Mirror Online, Mike said: ''In the documentary, Wade Robson described how he and his then 10-year-old sister stayed in Jackson's bedroom the first two nights they were ever at Neverland in January 1990.

''Wade then claimed that his family left to go to the Grand Canyon, while he stayed behind with Jackson alone at Neverland for the next five days.

''Wade claimed it was then when he was first abused by Jackson, going into graphic detail about what had allegedly happened over the course of several nights.''

Mike believes that Joy has ''no reason'' to be lying in her own testimony as she freely admitted leaving Wade alone with Michael on other occasions.

He added: ''His mother, Joy Robson, testified under oath in a deposition in 1993/1994 in relation to the Jordie Chandler case that Wade had actually gone with them on that trip to the Grand Canyon, before the entire family returned to Neverland for the second time the following weekend.

''Joy Robson had no reason to lie about this; she openly admitted that Wade stayed with Jackson alone on other occasions.

''She could have said, 'Wade stayed behind with Michael when we went away to the Grand Canyon between weekends', it wouldn't have made a difference.''

Joy's testimony highlights that her ''family'' joined her on the Grand Canyon trip with no mention of Wade staying behind, and she later claims that the first time she left him alone with the 'Billie Jean' hitmaker was in 1993, three years after he alleges the abuse started.

Mike said: ''Her words in that deposition were, 'We went to the ranch for the first weekend, and then we left and went to the Grand Canyon, and we toured. We came back to the ranch for the following weekend'.

''She was asked to elaborate on who had gone to the Grand Canyon, and she said 'my family'. There was no mention of Wade staying behind.

''To confirm this, later on, she revealed that the first time Wade stayed alone with Jackson at the ranch without her was actually in 1993. She said, 'My son has never been to the ranch without me up until this year (1993)'.''

Mike - who wrote Michael's biography 'Making Michael' - admits Joy's testimony doesn't ''categorically rule out'' Wade's allegations, but has made him ''wonder'' about the story Wade gives in 'Leaving Neverland'.

He said: ''All of this shows that Wade's story about being abused that first time, while the rest of his family had supposedly left the ranch to go to the Grand Canyon, is false.

''Of course, while this doesn't categorically rule out that Jackson abused Wade Robson, it does make you wonder if this extremely detailed and key story in the documentary has been fabricated.''

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James & Wade willfully lied in court filings just to circumvent statute of limitations.
Wade was "unaware of estate," 'til 2013 but judge found he was directly aware of it by 2011.
JS claimed he told mom of abuse in 2005, but also that he only recognized abuse in 2013.

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Wade also lied about not being able to act on his rights until he did as a way to get around statutes. Judge noted he knew in May 2012 that he knew of the 'facts' Add to that he was trying to shop a book in '12 yet claimed he 'couldn't admit to anyone or himself he'd been abused'
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Wade also had met with other lawyers prior to Marzano but didn't know he could file a claim until meeting with Marzano he claimed. Another lie.
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public service reminder: Today marks the day that Michael Jackson met Wade Robson in 1987 in Brisbane Australia. That would mark Thanksgiving day, the day James Safechuck claims to have spent with Michael Jackson in California.

If you're looking for a comprehensive guide breaking down the Robson & Safechuck allegations. It has the details of what was discovered up to that point of the writing date.
Keep in your back pocket!
"The Robson & Safechuck Files Truth Runs Marathons"

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Wade's original longtime attorney Helen Yu (who would go on to help Wade secretly shop a tell-all in 2012 that nobody wanted) was quite prophetic in her Nov. 25, 2009 article:
"MJ was certainly an amazing songwriter, performer & dancer, but he sometimes let the wrong people in."

Also, in reflecting on the tributes Wade Robson and his friend put on for MJ following his death, Hellen Yu stated:


"I’ve known Wade and Klapow since they were both little kids. They've both been disciples of MJ all their lives, and it’s great to see them honoring him this way."
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Wade was very close with his media and entertainment/celebrity-savvy lawyer through the entirety of his so-called abuse revelations.
Yet in court would later pretend he had no idea MJ had an estate nor who the admin of that estate was until '13 despite Yu writing about it in 09.

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Just doesn't gel, does it?

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Brett will tell you different!!!

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Yet, Wade has the nerve to make the ridiculous allegation in court documents that he was brought to the USA by MJ with the explicit purpose so that he can sexually molest him. When his mother admitted that they were the ones who had to chase MJ around all the time.


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Except that Wade was almost never with MJ at all.

He visited Neverland four times when MJ was there in 14 years.

Wade acknowledges in LN that MJ was rarely around after they moved to the US.

Those who were actually close to MJ, including child friends & families, defend him.

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"The appellate court’s ruling is not on the merits of Robson and Safechuck’s allegations and the court in no way said that these cases will go to trial. Neither does it reverse the 2015 rulings dismissing the claims against the estate"

Howard L Weitzman, Jackson estate attorney

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Blanca Francia’s Deposition Blasts the Wade Robson Story – Vindicating Michael

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How many moms would—after learning kid was abused 100s of times over half a decade—still cherish & grin fondly when reminiscing about alleged abuser?
While flipping through pages of real estate books she kept of the abuser's home and giddily pointing out her favorite rooms?
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Messaggio da soulmum » 8 dicembre 2019, 9:32

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Safechuck strikes me as someone who would just claim anything he needs to claim or someone else requests him to claim. He was overdoing this "sex all over Neverland" part, and it contradicts his portrayal of MJ as this extremely cautious and paranoid abuser in his lawsuit.



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There is also the "sex tape" claim that was neither in his lawsuit or LN, but he invented it for the first time during the media tour of LN. A couple of weeks before that R. Kelly was in the news with the whole sex tape thing against him...

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If Wade/James ever reach trial, we may see new fines levied against Finaldi & witnesses in ways that'd rival NL5 case.
Many are unaware that the attorney + witnesses in NL5 case were repeatedly fined & admonished for lying in depos & concealing evidence—it went badly from day 1.

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Robson/Safechuck Case: Here's what wasn't mentioned by the duo during their TMZ celebration nor by the media last month.
The panel of judges made clear the non-statute related merit issues in JS' case would also carry back to trial court, so will get their own renewed hearings.
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With Wade, the motion for summary judgment related strictly to statute of limitations. MJ's team did not originally raise any issues beyond that. That too will now change.
The estate indicated the reversal will "put the merit of Robson's causes of action at issue on remand."

To summarize: Wade & James' cases will head back to the original trial court (whose judge sat through more than half a decade of litigation already). From there, motions will be made on other grounds for dismissal.
The appellate court only considered statutes, not other merits.

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#MichaelJackson ignored little Wade Robson immedicately following their first 1987 meeting for TWO full years until Joy Robson hunted his ass down in CA. Seems the only thing MJ was NOT good- at was "grooming" .. eh?

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Wade defended MJ 2 days after police+media announced Chandler case. "I think it's sick—he wouldn't do anything like that..."
Haters argue MJ masterfully coached Wade to lie. MJ was rarely around Robsons & was overseas when scandal broke.
Their timeline doesn't make any sense.
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In Wade's lawsuit they place the coaching before Wade testified in front of the Grand Jury, which would be in early 1994. But Wade changed this story in his Inside Edition interview, claiming that it took place before that TV interview. Another case of evolving "memory", I guess.

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Wade Robson: "Because I am so triggered by MJ's sexual abuse I can't dance any more. Gimme money to compensate me! BTW, I realized my abuse while I watched my son and imagined him being abused."
Also WR: teaching his son to dance with similar advice as that MJ would give him.

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In 2013, Wade's team sent cease & desist to Joe Jackson (CC'd to TMZ) threatening to sue because he dared to defend his years-deceased son from $$$-motivated accusations.
Can't wait until all dust settles & Wade/James' side end up owing the estate a lot of $. They are the worst.

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In 2013, Wade's sudden allegations were so unbelievable to the general public that even TMZ—the most pro-guilt celebrity rag around—yielded a 75%-92% ratio of those who disbelieved Wade out of 2.2 million votes cast in total.
Here are those original poll results (May-Aug. 2013).

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Re: Robson, Safechuck file claim of abuse with estate

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Re: Robson, Safechuck file claim of abuse with estate

Messaggio da soulmum » 1 gennaio 2020, 9:27

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Please tell me how Wade Robson and James Safechuck were ever discarded around puberty when they were still in his life for years beyond the point they claim the alleged abuse ended? Please explain how the "others" in the film replaced. Here is BB:

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I just spoke with @InStudioWithMJ and he is very credible. Most interestingly, he says he was in studio with Michael Jackson about 300 times (likely more) & there were only kids there on a handful of occasions, with Wade Robson (who claims abuse in studio) only there maybe twice.

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John Branca explaining how he met ROBSON IN 2011 to discuss whether he could work for CDS show. when later ROBSON said he did not know of the Estate' existence.

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Re: Robson, Safechuck file claim of abuse with estate

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As anticipated in light of AB 218 and agreement from both sides with the appellate court, today Wade and James' cases have been formally remanded back to the trial court for continuation.
Expect additional motions, demurrers, discovery and more throughout this year.

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Re: Robson, Safechuck file claim of abuse with estate

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Tom Mesereau is now working with #MichaelJackson's Estate in the prepping for the second go round against two perjurors - Robson & Safechuck ! Congratulations Sir ! #MJFam 100 % support



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Let's make this very clear #MJFam. The 2017 ruling dismissed Robson/Safechuck's cases because of a statute of limitations, but also because neither of MJ's companies could be held liable for MJ's ALLEGED actions.

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Messaggio da soulmum » 4 gennaio 2020, 11:13

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I have questions. Is this saying that only on Robson's fourth amended complaint did he allege that the two companies were liable? Or did he originally state that?
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Yes. Starting here:
https://themichaeljacksonallegations.co ... on-part-1/

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