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The following just shows how hard Finaldi tried to find more 'victims'. Pathetic and worrying really yet nothing came of it of course.

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On the topic of nobody remembering LN's name...
From Finaldi's official site where he hoped to recruit new accusers (it's been like this since LN's premiere):
"Manly Stewart & Finaldi Are the Attorneys for the Finding Neverland Survivors..."
They do it on multiple pages
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I want to clarify that this appeal decision would mean that the Estate and HBO would go to arbitration. The SS below only means the appellate judge decides whether they go to arbitration or not.


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Re MJ Estate v HBO. Oral arguments are being considered for November, 2020. This is the last step in the appeals process before a decision is made. Court will be held in Pasadena, not LA. #MJEstatevHBO @Hammertonhal @TruthAndLaw8
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Remember how in an interview Dan Reed had to go out his way to explain their lack of any warning signs as children. His reasoning was that they only got traumatized by it as adults when they realized it was abuse. But even according to Rainn's list, that's not how it works.



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Robson was interviewed in AUS shortly after he was horribly abused for days. He was 7 and we are supposed to believe he had the sophistication to calculate that when the host asked him about MJ "OK I can talk about his hat, music but I can't talk about his penis, kissing"

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Replying to @DavidMapstone @Channel4 and @dorotheabyrne
Safechuck screamed abuse same week his family got sued for millions of dollars and after he saw Wade on TV talking about his alleged „abuse“

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The narrative is that Wade & James only saw each other "in passing" (James 1st said "no" never knew each other) yet Finaldi also argues they knew each other to an extent that each will somehow support the other in court.
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Not to mention.
But James tried to answer "no" to the question if they knew each other as kids...
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And when Reed and the media tried to lend credibility to Leaving Neverland by saying they never met as adults before Sundance which was a blatant lie.
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Dan must be ecstatic to officially be "part of the case" just as he was integral in their media tour & photo shoots in 2019.
Due to new judge's allowance of him and his film equipment into court, he is now also noted as a separate entity present in official court transcripts
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TMZ requested to film inside the courtroom in the original lawsuit and was denied. Why is Reed allowed to do it?



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New judge is what it boils down to. The prior judge was perhaps less interested in media theatrics in the court and understood both cases extraordinarily well.
When the former judge moved to a different dept. he still believed he would remain part of MJ cases due to his wisdom.
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Full Deposition: Leroy Waley (2017)
https://mjjr.net/docs/LeroyWhaleyDepo.pdf

This is Jolie Levine's son. He vehemently expresses his resentment of Finaldi.

Finaldi ended it prematurely and is now seeking $8,000+ sanctions against MJ's side & contempt based on Yoshi's responses.

Ruling on 9/24.

Yoshi is the nickname for Leroy, so he is the one being deposed here.
In the 1990s he and his mother were lied to and interrogated by investigators & Feldman.
They both maintain MJ's innocence. Finaldi fell for tabloid distortions of the 90s, thinking she'd bolster his case.

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From Wade Robson's blog - he is advising people that you will not find the source of what you need from external sources, like lawsuits, and instead, you must look within. Does he plan to drop his multi-million dollar lawsuit? Of course not. A perpetual hypocrite and fraud.
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So how did Robson end up sleeping in MJ's room?
Let's see how he brazenly changed his story to fix the part which does not depict MJ as a predator at all
In 2005 he testified under oath he asked if he can stay in MJ's room and then MJ asked his parents if it was OK with them

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Joy Robson also testified that it was Wade and Chantal who asked if they can stay with MJ
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Chantal Robson also testified she never got the feeling that MJ tried to talk her or Wade into being in his room
and it was their idea to sleep on his bed.
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In his 2013 book Robson he reiterated that he and Chantal asked to stay in MJ's room.
But when he was confronted with this fact he suddenly didn't remember that he wrote that.
In just 3 years he forgot
Conveniently
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In 2016 he suddenly does not remember how it went down and does not remember who asked who, but found it unlikely that it was him who asked because supposedly he was too shy to ask.
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So let's recap this:
2005: Wade Joy Chantal say they asked
2013: Wade says they asked
2016: Wade doesn't remember who asked and doesn't remember writing in 2013 that they asked
2017: Joy says they asked and Wade says MJ asked
2020: Wade says MJ invited them in his room

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Wade already confessed during his mental exam (commissioned by the estate) that he didn't truly believe he'd go to jail at 22 if he said he had been abused.
But during his depo shortly after he STILL attempted to use that as one excuse, before the estate called him out on it.

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ROBSONS—Lied about Wade's age for contest & meet-n-greet.
ROBSONS—Sent letters & videos to MJ for 2 years, no response.
ROBSONS—Called networks & associates to track down MJ before leaving AU & again after landing in US.
WADE: ThE GrOoMing StArTed LoNg BefORe We EvER MeT HIm!!
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ROBSONS: Had to chase MJ around to put Wade in videos.
ROBSONS: Were offended that MJ didn't take Wade on the Dangerous Tour.
ROBSONS: Cut MJ off for six months for NOT calling Wade from the Dangerous Tour.
Also ROBSONS: hE bRoUgHt uS tO thE UsA sO tHaT hE cOuLd AbUsE WaDe.

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Jail all false accusers
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Robson says MJ cut him out for merely not dressing like him or not interested in the things he was interested in .....but he says he was so attracted to him he molested him every single time they were together.
So which one is it?
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Michael never asked him either... lies, lies, lies!
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Estate's Renewed Demurrer Motion in Safechuck's Case
This week, MJ's team has filed the anticipated demurrer motion in Safechuck's case, refreshing claims that the prior judge & appellate never ruled on.
A tentative in-person hearing on this demurer will be Oct 16 2020.


The estate argues JS' claims are fatally defective—"No amendment can cure these defects."
1. Intentional Infliction of Emotional Distress
2. Negligence
3. Negligent Supervision
4. Negligent Retention/Hiring
5. Negligent Failure to Train, Warn, Educate
6. Breach of Fiduciary Duty
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The estate summarizes how James never bothered appealing the original dismissal against the estate.
Instead, James (like Wade) shifted their financially motivated claims by "artfully attempting to recharacterize the alleged misconduct as 'negligence' of the two corporations."
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The estate contends that James' allegations are "rife with easily proven falsehoods" and refers to the claims as "legal fiction" but acknowledges that the Court, in deciding the demurrer, has to treat the pleadings as if undisputed to determine the legal substance of the causes.
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The estate rightfully points out how the companies cannot be directly liable for any alleged molestation.
Therefore, Wade/James (after Finaldi took over) withdrew the molestation claims in favor of "failure to protect" as a way to shoe-in a hopeful payout from the companies.
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The estate explains that the negligence causes all fail because no facts establish the corporations had duty to protect, given existing legal precedent, why they befriended MJ, and especially when the alleged conduct had nothing to do with the corporations (solely owned by MJ).
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Another argument from Safechuck (and one attempted by Finaldi in almost every failed depo) is that the companies were supposed to be "mandatory reporters."
Safechuck provided no supporting facts that the corporations or staff were child care custodians or directly supervised MJ.
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Continuing, the estate argues that the "negligent supervision & negligent hiring" is also without merit.
The corporations obviously "did not hire, retain, or supervise MJ—their owner, president, sole shareholder, and sole reason for existence."
Another preposterous claim by JS.
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Regarding "Negligent Failure to Train, Warn, or Educate," the estate again explains that it lacks any legal basis or foundation, even using Finaldi's own filings to sell the point.
The companies were established to conduct MJ's music business, not to train or educate families.
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Another claim is for "Intentional Infliction of emotional distress." (Finaldi originally hinted at removing this when he removed the molestation claims.)
James fails to support any of this, especially how the companies supposedly conducted "extreme & outrageous conduct."
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Finally, the estate contends that Safechuck has no grounds to allege that the corporations now being sued were his fiduciaries.
Even stretching it to an "employer" relationship would fall flat, since James has no evidence of any employment in 1988-1992 with MJ or his companies.
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In the footnotes the estate includes:
- Reference to James' 2nd amended complaint where negligent supervision was dismissed. JS admits in 3rd complaint the corporations were "incapable of supervising" him.
- Why Pamela L. v. Farmer is misplaced—very different circumstances.
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WADE ROBSON CASE UPDATE: Here is a rush copy of the judge's rulings from today's hearing w/ many thanks to
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FINALDI LOST across the board and in a scathing fashion from judge—ordered to PAY SANCTIONS to Fox & Spence to the tune of $6270!
http://mjjr.net/docs/2020-09-24-Hearing.pdf


The judge refers to 2023.010 w/ intent to issue more sanctions (amount to be determined) for Finaldi's opposition to protection orders by 4 parties.
Amber Heard was dealt a similar blow in 2018 and the sanction was $6,850 (typically sanctions are $500-$1,200 per infraction).


Here's the current state of guilter culture.
I shared this new update to their sub without any personal opinion attached, and it was still promptly removed by their mods.
This is why people like Dimond end up so shocked when the outcome favors MJ, they live in a total bubble.
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The icing on the cake is that the judge on his own accord (NOT at the estate's request) is going to determine even more ADDITIONAL SANCTIONS against Finaldi's side for making his unsuccessful motions for protective orders.
Finaldi's firm remains heavily indebted in this case.
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Everything Finaldi attempts ends up backfiring.
The judge blasted Finaldi for his unprofessionalism and "gender incivility" against MJ's attorney as part of reviewing the records, based on Finaldi's own attempt to demand sanctions and protective order against the estate.
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This is a lovely excerpt that emphasizes how desperate Finaldi's entire basis is.
Much like Sneddon, rather than relying on the merits of his own cases he keeps insisting on the Chandler case despite completely unrelated.
The judge saw right through this and his mistreatment.
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Just saw this on the final ruling. Steinsapir has until 9/29 to file for sanctions, Finaldi has until 10/9 to file the reply. I assume ruling will be on 10/16.
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Judge Mark A. Young makes clear sexist behavior by the attorneys for Robson and Safechuck won't be tolerated.
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The audacity of Finaldi to think he is privileged enough to randomly request "any and all photographs of Spence, taken while he was 3 through 18 years age."
Keep in mind he also requested the body search photos of MJ from LAPD/SBSO thinking that he could just casually get those.

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This person was in the courtroom and tells us her take on how things went.

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Hi everyone thanks for the kind messages and being so patient. So much to unpack. I’d first like to thank
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both these incredible advocates provide us with information without them I wouldn’t know where to go to hear the cases.

As you guys know Thursday was about the pending motions to be talked about I have to say that this was the best hearing I’ve attended. If it was a film it would have you on an emotional roller coaster Intrigue, law drama, comedic moments, sadness, suffering, empathy and justice.
Most of all your heart breaks for the kind human being who is being accused of the most heinous crime known to man and he is not here to defend himself, who in his lifetime was vindicated and cleared.

Words that came up a lot meet and confer, deposition and objections to compound questions and matters of privacy for non party witnesses who want nothing to do with plaintiffs Wade and James.


I learned that when Lawyers end depositions where the witness is hostile there is a procedure and if not followed the law determines it is concluded or another one can be rescheduled. I will break this down in three threads just cause there is so much.

First to be talked about was the Complaint Finaldi had about the deposition of Leroy Whaley and his attorney Mc Isaac. The court had presented tentatives that all parties read before. Finaldi starts talking about the meet and confer that attorneys usually do with depositions.

Finaldi spoke first giving his side and then Mc Isaac will defend her side and Jonathon Steinsapir will also speak Finaldi now speaks and complains about how the meet and confer didn’t go well and that she took long time to-get back to him.

Level 8:
He claims she failed to meet in good faith and that failure to meet and confer in good faith is an abuse of the discovery process. So the court should impose sanctions on her. If you haven’t read Whaley’s deposition I highly recommend it.

Finaldi talks about rules of deposition and that parties are protected from from annoyance and embarrassment and if oppression occurs it’s oppressive to his clients and himself. Judge tell him he’s lumping McIsaac and witness together and needs to distinguish that it’s separate.

He says he took a deposition on Saturday to accommodate Leroy paying for a hotel room and conference room. Says he’s taking many depositions but that behavior is in excusable and the judge agrees. With Finaldi here. Finaldi talking now he says Leroy called him a douche bag and Mc Isaac said try not to swear. Mr Whaley continued and called me an ambulance chaser.He said can we continue on the record and say he’s a douchebag.

Judge says will he may have thought you left the room. ( That made me laugh}. Finaldi said it was in front of me he said that and I find McIsaac served to encorage his behavior and I have examples. Finaldi gives examples and the judge tell him don’t take things out of context.

I would say that if Mr. Whaley called you a douxhebag earlier and not after the hearing was terminated then and If Mc Isaac hadn’t said anything then yes that’s cause to be reprimanded.

So he thought you left the room and he wasn’t sure you were there. {Again I laughed here too} Finaldi She was smiling this is abusive behavior and she was encouraging him. He read an La civility law about depositions. Judge says I’m gonna assume u two have history together and may have bled over to this one. After reading the whole transcript I find her transgressions minor. Your speaking objections aren’t proportional and your taking it out of context. The judge repeated this point a few times throughout the exchange and you to have lived together and been on numerous cases Finaldi tells the judge we didn’t live together. Judge let’s out a laugh and says I didn’t mean that literally. His face had an expression where it was like don’t you understand sarcasm. Finaldi said that McIsaac behavior was harassing to to him and and his http://clients.as he complains more to the Judge who keot saying don’t take it out of context when he called you a douchebag he thought you left the room. Finaldi says she was enflaming him, affecting his Whaley’s, testimony trying to get a rise out of me. Again

Again judge says your reaction is not in proportion to it Finaldi says I need to talk to him about the nude photo it’s a salient piece of evidence. She kept objecting and Whaley said the police lied to him Finaldi said I tried to deescalate the situation and judge says doesn’t sound like you were deescalating. Judge then agrees with Mc Isaac about her objections to some of his questions did you speak to him on the phone, were you in a car with Micheal Jackson again back and forth.He continues she was coaching him, she cut me off, she was giving him clues. Judge then says cutting you off is not Indicative of anything, how was she coaching him and what clues did she give him? Finaldi says well if it alters his testimony I have a right to speak to him.

Finaldi wanted to give more examples taking long pauses to find his examples. judge we don’t need to read that. Finaldi said I gave her a warning to sanction her. Judge reads the law to him and tells Finaldi he didn’t follow the proper procedure.

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Continued.
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Hardy said he was threatened again with another attack and basically mocked him and asked if he was wearing a robe and that he must have missed his judicial swearing in ceremony. This is not his case and he was upset about this.

He said he finds it ironic that he says I’m setting a trap for him when he threatened to hold me in contempt.
He continued said it’s harsh subjecting a mom and her son to this during a pandemic.

He said I Don’t want to trap my clients where they are asked things that invade their privacy from 30 tea ago.Judge asks if they can narrow grey areas and come to an agreement.
Finaldi I need this deposition and everyone wants to pile on me that I’m the bad guy.

Finaldi and plaintiffs owe them money for legal fees incurred I think 3135 don’t quote me on that. Stay tuned for Morion of Lilly Chandler and Tabitha Marks.

Judge we are moving on to Lilly Chandler and Tabitha Marks.
Finaldi says this motion similar to JjS and MF we have information we need from them. We need to locate. Jordan Chandler he is nowhere to be found he is Invisible he is a ghost. We need to know where he last was when when he was last heard from where he vacationed if he bought any properties. We need an electronic footprint. Both these women have information we need to know about his parents. Where they are ( I can tell you where one parent is hopefully in hell) their contact and who his his friends
are. Who does he associate with. Especially since he is a prior sexual abuse victim. Who came forward publicly and media was all over it. There was a criminal case involved . He testified under oath and received a settlement

This is public info so that no longer protects him from Privacy laws. Judge. We are talking about his sister and fiancée not Jordan.

Finaldi: I offered then Jane Doe statuses protecting their identity but they filed motions publicly with their names on it. For Marks I want to to ask her if Jordan told her anything I’d she knows about his location and interactions with Mj.
Judge JC testimony might be relevant but not Lilly’s or Tabitha. Privacy rights apply here. You have not told us what u have done to find Mr Chandler.

Finaldi I wasn’t to ask her about his location Judge don’t you it’s overcome by privacy rights. Finaldi I need Lilly to tell me about her Europe trip and she was there when here brother was groomed by Mj. (He mentions that June and how Mj wanted to stay with Jordan and how Mj said he kicked the lamp and was practicing karate really substantiated claims) Her brother gave statements to police. Finaldi said in her statements Lilly has moved on and was 5 years old. judge says what she said was her memories were conflated by news media and doesn’t know what’s true and not.

Finaldi I want these depositions Tabitha would be a couple of hours .Seiger the attorney for Tabitha and Lilly speaks now and says. Finaldi is ignoring that LC and TM want nothing to do with plaintiffs and there information is not relevant to their case. Lilly was very young and never witnessed anything and knows nothing about plaintiffs and the Mj entities. Tabitha also knows nothing of Jordan’s interactions with Mj and that subjecting his clients to this invades their privacy..Dragging them into this will cause them public backlash, scrutiny and media attention as is the case with anything involving MJ. The plaintiffs would just exposer them to unwanted aggression and why should they have to go through that. Lilly said she has nothing to do with plaintiffs and and then going after the companies. Plaintiffs have the burden.

Seiger reads a statement from Jordan’s attorney
Contacted them and told them JC wants nothing to do with this. He wants to be left alone and remain private and Wants to maintain and abide by his confidentiality

Doesn’t want his family to go through this. The confidentiality agreement is there to protect him should he choose to go public.his lawyer said just because Robson and Safechuck made an HBO special doesn’t mean he want to be part of it. Plaintiffs are using this as a sword Against him. There’s nothing proving plaintiffs allegations are true.
The court should maintain ruling.

Finaldi says that Seiger admits he’s in hiding well WE NEED TO FIND HIM CAUSE MY CLIENTS ABUSE CAME AFTER. Me in my head saying that Someone needs to read to Finaldi

The dates and timelines of his clients . Finaldi says Jordan waives his rights when he went to police and filed a civil suit against Mj. Thinking in my head Hey Douchebag don’t you realize he was a minor?
Judge The order for protective order is granted and pariies must meet And confer and plaintiffs must pay 3,135 for legal fees. So 6,135 total.
Jonathon Steinsapir : We will be one court Oct 16 for the Demurrer for James also we have an issue others have provided us with Info that the filmmaker filming and we weren’t given access to those and we have concerns having any filmmaker in the courtroom especially one so closely Associated with the plaintiffs and who have been paid for the documentary. We want to file something. This will be heard on Oct. 16 also. The filming issue. Judge said that he got an application from Dan R who asked to film said its in the public’s interest and that Dan R has been respectful to the rules but this will be addressed on Oct 16. I’ll be there. Please don’t worry about the filming the estate seem to have a plan and let’s respect that.

The courtroom is their terrain regardless of how you feel about their creative content and what they release. We don’t want to undermine their case. Let’s see what happens the judge may even ask Reed to share his full footage and not edit it given what the estate argues In what they file when they address the filming issue.

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Wade be like:
Disregard my "Oscar-worthy" performances from age 7-28 including 11 rounds of trial questioning and interrogation.
Also ignore how my book version of "truth" differs from estate lawsuit, which differs from 4 amended company lawsuits, which differs from TV version.

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Wade repeatedly obstructed estate's discovery, hiding 1000s of docs, arguing his book & emails w/ Joy were attorney-client priveleged.
At the same time, his side was badgering people like Spence demanding he turn over his complete medical/sexual history, pics from age 3-18, etc.

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DOCUMENT: Estate's declaration requesting $14,281.25 in sanctions against Finaldi for his failed motions (separate from $6,270 Finaldi owes Fox & Spence).
$3,912.25: Meet & confer
$1,100: Response to Ex Parte Doc
$9,200: Preparation of Opposition Papers

https://mjjr.net/docs/2020-09-29-Declaration.pdf

Finaldi will respond by Oct. 9, and the judge will issue a final sanction amount on October 16.
Often the declared amount by the judge will be lower than the amounts requested by attorneys, but he will consider all of their arguments and expenses in deciding.

"This case is a high-stakes case, where potentially tens of millions (or more) of actual damages will be claimed, along with punitive damages." -Estate
7 years in and they refuse to give a $ amount, while pretending it isn't about $. They should've file for $1 symbolically, lol.

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DOCUMENT: Here is the 50 PAGE LIST Finaldi made in 2017 about Wade's emails—arguing they were "priveleged."
This was after Wade swore he had only sent one email about the case, ever.
Judge ruled in estate's favor & issued court order to turn them over.
https://mjjr.net/docs/2017-02-03-Finaldi-Email-List.pdf

GUILTERS: "Wade only lied about his abuse to protect MJ!"
NO. Wade repeatedly & maliciously lied about material facts pertinent to his case since 2013, until court order.
He lied about his cache of emails. He lied about the book. He lied about when he learned of the estate. . .
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DOCUMENT: Here is Finaldi's complete "Challenge to Judicial Officer," where he attempts to argue that the judge was wrong in his rulings, has a conflict-of-interest from spouse's employment at USC & should recuse himself.
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https://mjjr.net/docs/2020-10-02-Finald ... fficer.pdf

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DEPOSITION DUMP:
JOHN BRANCA - Full Deposition 2017-10-18 (160 Pages): https://mjjr.net/docs/Deposition-John-B ... -10-18.pdf
Deposed by Finaldi.
(Underlined lines in a given transcript represent Finaldi's own highlights that he feels somehow support Wade's causes of action.)





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DOCUMENT: Here is Finaldi's latest opposition to the estate's recently filed demurrer request, relating to James Safechuck's third amended complaint.
Largely the same recycled & fallacious arguments that Finaldi desperately stretches in the name of $$$.
https://mjjr.net/docs/2020-10-02-Finald ... murrer.pdf

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DEPOSITION DUMP:
GARY HEARNE - Full Deposition 2016-09-02 (273 Pages): https://mjjr.net/docs/Deposition-Gary-H ... -09-02.pdf
Deposed by Finaldi and briefly by Slater (Marzano).
(Underlined lines in a given transcript represent Finaldi's own highlights that he feels somehow support Wade's causes of action.)

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Finaldi tells Branca MJJ Venture was created in 1991.
While in Robson's complaint he says MJJ Production MJJ Venture orchestrated meet and geets in 1987 to groom him for sexual abuse
Another case of time travel
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Even in the private notes McManus stole (I mean "accidentally slipped into her pockets"Man facepalming) MJ had penciled in some writings about being "a black American and proud of it" and of his heterosexuality.
From the 1980s onward the media tried robbing MJ of his gender, race, sexuality.

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Both Safechuck and Robson are using Blanca and Jason as witnesses. SMH



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Blanca's deposition failed so catastrophically that the estate didn't bother sending two attorneys to the second one, even though she is pretty much the star witness they are depending on.
She again had to repeatedly acknowledge never seeing or hearing anything but MJ in shower.

Then the problem w/ shower incident is that she continuously stated since 93-94 that it occurred in Nov-Dec. 1989, which predated Wade's first visit to Neverland.
And Jason's entire claims are that "a testicle might've gotten touched for few seconds 2-3 times over 5 years."

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The Estate's lawyer (in the person of Howard Weitzman) is being shady AF and I'm loving every single minute of it.
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DOC: Estate's response to Finaldi's "utterly frivolous" recusal request.
https://mjjr.net/docs/2020-10-05-Estate ... ecusal.pdf
- Recusal Cannot Be Based on Judicial Rulings.
- Spouse's Completely Unrelated Case Connection is Baseless for Recusal.
- Finaldi Has History of Accusing Prior Judge of Misconduct.

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Joy wrote book in 2011 about MJ & raising Wade.
Nothing in it was a lie when she wrote it. But suddenly after Wade's flip-flop allegations, she states:
"...the whole thing is a lie. That's why I threw it out."
Convenient to have THROWN OUT another version of the actual truth.
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Further, Joy "isn't sure" if she kept any of the diaries that her mom gave to her and blames moving twice in four years "so a lot of things have been thrown out."
Any records that tell the endearing and real side of their association with MJ mysteriously end up lost. How odd.
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DEPOSITION DUMP:
Gayle Goforth (Housekeeper 1989-2002) - Full Depo 2016-10-24 (237 Pages): https://mjjr.net/docs/Deposition-Gayle- ... -10-24.pdf
Deposed by Finaldi.
Follow-up by Liskin.
Another witness Finaldi hoped would bolster his case based on tabloid tales, but fell flat. She believes MJ was innocent.

Finaldi tossed in Quindoy's tabloid tale that he warned staffers "never leave MJ alone with a kid!" (Quindoys spoke positively of MJ until pay-day after Chandlers, this never happened.)
Gayle confirmed no staff told her any such thing. "That's something I would have remembered."

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In another part of Finaldi's reoccurring questioning, he attempts to paint Gayle like all the other staff as "untrained" to know about sexual abuse or report it.
Gayle explains to him that her own son *was* abused by a coach and his demeanor had changed dramatically after.
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Continuing his obsession over falsely portraying everything in MJ's room as "all boys" Finaldi asked about his "male closet...where he had the boy's pictures and everything."
Gayle: "He had all kinds of everything. He had memorabilia in both closets."
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The "secret closet" that guilters love to ramble on about, which was part of the original architect's design years before MJ purchased the house...was also an openly accessible area including to staff & where maintenance crew would enter to fix bathroom piping and utilities.
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When Finaldi keeps circling back to how "weird" it was that MJ had pictures of children hanging in his mansion's bedroom closet, Gayle responded:
"They were friends of his. He had pictures of Muhammad Ali in there. There was other pictures in there."
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When asked why MJ would let kids stay in his room, Gayle explained how "he didn't know how to say no."
Gayle described how MJ would give out alarm codes to anyone that asked, even if he didn't want kids in.
She also shuts down Finaldi's attempt of spinning that sinister.
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On the claim of only ever having boys sleep in his room, Gayle explained (in 93 & in her depo) how "It's not necessarily for male or female...it was like a big slumber party, a big free-for-all..."
This included seeing June, Lily & Jordie on bed watching TV & girls on MJ's lap.
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Gayle recalled Jordan, Jason and Gavin all acting like brats.
She did not believe the allegations and noted that MJ never directly t
talked to her about the Chandler case or heard MJ telling anyone else about it.
(Wade/James claim he called them & coached them to lie for him.)
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Gayle again comments on how she had seen Jordie with his MOTHER and SISTER on the bed with MJ.
Finaldi continuously implies boys being "in" MJ's bed means something nefarious, so she clarifies that too.
"Lying on the bed watching TV...innocently watching TV...sleeping..."
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Regarding Safechuck, Gayle recalled his parents being around and even after he grew up they'd be guests at the ranch, together. Few times alone.
She called James a "nice kid" but spoiled - he was "just like his parents...snap his fingers and 'I want this' and 'I want that."
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Finaldi fixates on Gayle's duties of taking dirty laundry to the wash. His obsession is about "underwear." An innocuous story morphed by McManus & Blanca.
Gayle explained she'd find dirty clothes of all kinds from everyone and load it up for the wash.
Nothing sinister about it.
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Gayle recalls both beds in disarray when she'd go to clean MJ's bedroom—Finaldi insists Wade always slept on lower bed and upper one was always made (this contracts Wade & James in multiple ways).
She said often MJ would sleep on bathroom sofa & w/ sleeping bags for groups.
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Gayle concludes her deposition by explaining "it is not fair that he was being sued and he was not here to defend himself."
In summary...
Gayle believes MJ was innocent, never saw anything abnormal in any of the years she worked there & disputed tabloid gossip.
A Finaldi Flop.
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Leroy Thomas (2017): Michael was a nice guy. Really good person. What else go on, you know, is just mostly people that work for him. He's a great guy."
^ Coming from the tabloid sell-out who failed Maury's polygraph alleging destruction of a nude photo.
Finaldi's witnesses.

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Wade's Frivolity: Evvy & Norma were in a better position "to suspect I was abused" than Joy.
Yet he claims MJ told Joy he'd strip Wade & change him. VG approached Joy to say MJ was abusing Wade. Sneddon told Joy he had nude photo of Wade from MJ.
All of this was JOY, not STAFF.
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And despite naming Blanca Francia as another staffer who should've suspected he was abused (based on her $20,000 tabloid interview to Diane Dimond years after leaving the ranch), Wade doesn't include her as a DEFENDANT or sue her directly. Nope, he uses her as a WITNESS for them.

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The judge in Wade/James' case has rejected Finaldi's baseless plea for him to recuse himself.
https://mjjr.net/docs/2020-10-09-Order- ... cation.pdf
"None of the contentions made by Finaldi are, as a matter of law, legal grounds for disqualification for cause. The motion for voluntary recusal is DENIED."

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SAFECHUCK DOCUMENT: The estate's reply brief in support of their renewed demurrer, and second request for judicial notice.
https://mjjr.net/docs/2020-10-08-Estate ... murrer.pdf
This comes after Finaldi's response to the estate's initial request.
A hearing will be held on these arguments on October 16.


The estate perfectly summarizes the ridiculousness of Safechuck.
Safechuck explains their friendship grew after the '87 Pepsi commercial, from the Safechucks and MJ exchanging letters and visits.
None of this involved the companies, one of which didn't even exist until 1991.
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“He spent millions hushing families!”

FBI found no suspicious payments made out from his bank account. Anything over the amount of $10,000 is immediately taken to the notice of feds. They would’ve caught wind of it and handed evidence of any hush money over to prosecutors.

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As you know by know Judge Young has refused to recuse himself from the Safechuck case. While it should be assumed, the Estate has also asked for an order to strike the disqualification for the Robson case as well. So what happens next?
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Finaldi has two choices at this point. He can accept Judge Young's ruling and order to strike, or he can file a request with the appellate court for a writ of mandate. This means he has to file in a different court and only has 10 days to do so.

So to most, it would seem as if Finaldi is desperate to stall being sanctions for inappropriate behavior in depositions, and also to stall for the possibility that Safechuck's case could be dismissed on demurrer. I guess we'll just have to wait and see what Finaldi's next move is

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Safechuck 05 (According to Complaint):
- 27 years old
- Abuser on trial; DA seeking info on past bad acts
- Tells mom MJ abused him
- MJ calls him repeatedly & incriminates self on phone.
- Never tells state any of this, refuses to help them convict "bad man" abuser
Ridiculous.

Also Safechuck:
To Court - During 05 trial I told my mom I was abused and that MJ was a a bad man.
To Gayle - I would've taken this secret to my grave and not told anyone had MJ not died in 2009.
To Oprah: I didn't realize I was abused until after I saw Wade on TV in 2013.

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Great news, everyone!
Last week, Larry Nimmer applied for and received permission to film the court proceedings in the same manner that Dan Reed has.
Larry is the producer of The Untold Story of Neverland and was the videographer who filmed Neverland to debunk 2005 claims.

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Great news! Larry Nimmer had filmed critical footage at Neverland that helped demonstrate that the bells/alarms near the entrance to Michael Jackson's bedroom actually proved he was innocent of the claims made in 2005 trial.


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As well as a video montage showing all of the clocks at Neverland after the entire Arvizo family attempted to claim "there were no clocks at Neverland" which then pivoted to "the clocks were all wrong" lol.
15 years later I still can't fathom the level of corruption involved.

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For those of you who are unfamiliar with Larry Nimmer, here is just ONE of the films he has made on MJ's innocence. Nimmer will be filming in court on Friday in the Safechuck case against the Estate. Michael Jackson: A Case for Innocence

https://youtu.be/llLQEi4NMxI



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Tomorrow's court date is a big one. Sanctions for Finaldi and a possible demurrer dismissal for Safechuck.


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THREAD: Dan Reed's motion to quash US subpoenas that he and his production firm received by the estate on Sept. 21, 2020.
Dan has filed a court motion detailing his plans for LN:2 while attempting to quash the estate's subpoenas very recently lodged toward Dan and Amos Pictures.

Dan indicates he has been in LA county for a month "for the sole purpose of filming the proceedings of these cases" and that he will fly back to the UK on October 18, until next March.
He is officially hired by Channel 4 "News & Current Affairs" for the production of LN:Part 2.
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For LN:2, Dan alleges it is "about current events taking place partly in public view...an unfolding narrative with multiple points of view. There are multiple parties involved...plaintiffs, defendants, and the Court"
He states it will premiere after the cases have concluded.
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Dan met with Weitzman at his offices in June 2020 and was "optimistic" they'd allow him to film behind-the-scenes and do interviews, also including Branca and the defense attorneys representing MJ's companies in this case.
He sent multiple emails to them through September.
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Weitzman has rejected participation for LN:2.
"Neither myself or anyone in my offices will participate in the documentary...for several reasons. Among them is the fact that you are already clearly on the record saying that you believe both accusers' stories without hesitation."
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Dan has the nerve to suggest, in court, that LN is "impartial" and was not a one-sided film, because the media reviews loved it and said it was compelling.
Yet he admitted in his interviews he didn't bother contacting anyone who'd defend MJ because "they weren't in the room."
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In another clear "penalty of perjury" Dan proclaims that "not one factual error" in LN has been brought to his attention.
He dispels all "anomalies" as "baseless" according to his crack team of researchers.
Yet Dan offered two demonstrably false excuses for Train Station LIE.
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Dan says that he "deliberately steered away from discussion of the related court cases in anything except the most general terms" in LN.
Which is amusing given the entire premise of the film was so Wade and James would have another platform to tell their "truths".
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On Sept. 21, 2020, MJ's estate served subpoenas on Dan and Amos Pictures to "personally appear for deposition and produce documents related to 'Leaving Neverland' and to the follow-up film currently in production."
Dan whines about motions from estate calling he & his film out.
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The estate has requested through subpoena (Part 1):
- All raw footage of Wade, Joy, Chantal, Amanda, Shane, Lorraine (inc. outtakes)
- All contracts and releases signed by parties
- All documents evidencing payments to any parties directly or indirectly including to attorneys)
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The estate has requested through subpoena (Part 2):
- All communications (or documents evidencing communications) with Wade or his family or any others and/or their representatives.
- All communications between Dan and anyone he ever requested or sought interviews for.
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The estate has requested through subpoena (Part 3):
- All communications explaining "photos, audio clips, video clips, letters, faxes, gifts, mementos, memorabilia" supplied.
- All communications that "relate to the need to re-shoot, re-create, re-stage" any interview
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The estate is simultaneously filing international subpoenas that make similar requests via Hague Convention procedures.
An attorney for Amos and Reed argues that Dan is not a resident of the USA and therefore these US-based subpoena requests should be quashed.
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After two meet-and-confers, the estate offered to (at least with respect to the US-based subpoenas):
a.) Limit the subpoenas to all of the UNPUBLISHED footage of the plaintiffs.
b.) Depose Reed and Amos Pictures only about that footage.
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Channel 4 also put out an 8 page motion to quash the subpoenas. Their ramblings were mostly gushing over Dan as "one of the most internationally renowned" filmmakers to ever live & glowing LN reviews.
They attempt to paint the estate as wanting to "shoot the messenger" & so on.
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Note that the estate did file a brief with the court on October 9 arguing against Dan filming in the court.

In this brief they detail the bias and fallacies with LN and Dan Reed himself.
This was another basis of Dan & Amos claiming none of that is true in their filings here.

The complete set of motions from Dan, Amos and Channel 4 including email exhibits can be downloaded below:

https://mjjr.net/docs/2020-10-13-Dan-Am ... -Quash.pdf

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